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The symbol shows the location of the Wenvoe (Cardiff, Wales) transmitter which serves 360,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Wenvoe (Cardiff, Wales) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Wenvoe transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C41+ (634.2MHz)384mDTG-100,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) Wales, 2 BBC Two Wales, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 14 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C44 (658.0MHz)384mDTG-100,000W
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5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Wales), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C47 (682.0MHz)384mDTG-100,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD Wales, 102 BBC Two HD Wales, 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 110 Channel 4 HD (Wales), 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H -3dB
C42+ (642.2MHz)384mDTG-850,000W
Channel icons
 E4 (Wales), 20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H -3dB
C45+ (666.2MHz)384mDTG-850,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H -3dB
C39+ (618.2MHz)384mDTG-850,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LCF
 H -10dB
C37 (602.0MHz)384mDTG-1210,000W
Channel icons
from 22nd September 2014: 8 Made in Cardiff,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Wenvoe transmitter?

regional news image
BBC Wales Today 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 2YQ, 6km northeast (42°)
to BBC Wales region - 206 masts.
regional news image
ITV Cymru Wales 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 6XJ, 1km east-northeast (74°)
to ITV Wales region - 206 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

AbergwesynActive deflector7 km N Llanwrtyd Wells20 homes
BarryTransposer10 km SW city centre300 homes
Celtic ManorTransposer5 km E Newport80 homes
PentrebachTransposer3 km S Merthyr Tydfil100 homes
YstradfellteActive deflector30 km NE Port Talbot20 homes

How will the Wenvoe (Cardiff, Wales) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20102010-132013-182013-1715 May 2019
VHFB E TB E TB E TB E TB E K TW TW T
C5BBCtvwaves
C30LOCAL2
C31com7com7
C37com8com8
C39 +ArqB+ArqBArqB
C41ITVwavesITVwavesITVwaves+BBCA+BBCA+BBCABBCA
C42+SDN+SDN+SDNSDN
C44BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4D3+4D3+4
C45+ArqA+ArqA+ArqAArqA
C47C4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCBBBCBBBCBBBCB
C49tv_off+ArqB
C51tv_offBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesLCFLCF
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 3 Mar 10 and 31 Mar 10.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 500kW
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 100kW
com8(-9.7dB) 53.2kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB(-10dB) 50kW
com7(-10.3dB) 47kW
Mux 1*, LCF(-17dB) 10kW
Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*(-20dB) 5kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Wenvoe transmitter area

Jan 1958-Jul 1968Television Wales and the West
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Harlech Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Wenvoe was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Saturday, 19 June 2021
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Chris.SE
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12:06 AM

Lewis:

I very much doubt it, but without a full postcode we can't confirm what the Freeview predictor might give.
Using the Old Police Station as a guide, although reception of the PSBs are good, the commercial multiplexes from Wenvoe are variable to good but that would be with an external aerial. Wenvoe is due S, so if you have a S facing window you can put the aerial in, you could always give it a try. Which way do your neighbours' aerials point?

The UHF channels for Wenvoe are C41, C44, C47, C42, C45, C39, C55, C37 that's in the multiplex order BBCA/PSB1, D3&4/PSB2, BBCB HD/PSB3, SDN/COM4, ArqA/COM5, ArqB/COM6, COM7, Local.
(C means UHF channel). See Channel listings for Industry Professionals | Freeview for which programme channels are carried on which multiplex.

You are much more likely to get good reception from the Treharris Relay Transmitter, but it's only the PSBs, it's roughly bearing 308 degrees (WNW) about 1km away, but it's very low power so you'd probably need line-of-sight, walls etc will impede the signal, UHF channels are C40, C43, and C46.

There's another (Light) Relay transmitter PSBs only at Mynydd Bach about 6km away roughly bearing 119 degrees (ESE), UHF channels are C32, C34, & C35. Again walls will impede the signal.

IIRC you can't manual tune a Youview box, so it will be down to luck, and you may have to reset the box when trying another transmitter to clear the previous tuning.

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Wednesday, 23 June 2021
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Lewis
4:45 PM
Treharris

Chris.SE: Thanks for the reply
Post Code CF46 6HJ
Treharris has only a limited number of channels compared with Wenvoe that's why I was thinking of trying it out if it's possible.
Will a rooftop aerial work ?

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Lewis
4:46 PM

Chris.SE:

Sorry second question does it require a Wideband or Group B Rooftop aerial?

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StevensOnln1
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6:12 PM

Lewis: According to the Freeview Detailed Coverage Checker you should get decent reception of the PSB multiplexes and reasonable reception of the COM muxes from Wenvoe. A wideband type antenna would be better than a Group B if you want to get the COM7 channels as well as the main PSB1-3 and COM4-6 multiplexes as COM7 is on UHF channel 55 which is above the frequency range of Group B.

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Thursday, 24 June 2021
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Chris.SE
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8:14 AM

Lewis:

I'm assuming that the terrain in your postcode isn't totally flat from the predicted reception figures I can see. As StevensOnln1 says UHF C55 is technically just above the range of a Group B antenna but SOME group B will still have sufficient gain and possibly better gain than a Group T/Wideband for C55 cf eg. C39, for example see ATV aerial gain tests : all the gain curves - A.T.V. Poles, Brackets, Clamps & Aerials and look at the curve for that Yagi 18B (this isn't especially any recommendation) it shows how variable different aerials can be.

I would avoid aerials such as these "tri-booms", the windage is high and many (or their chimney mountings) do not survive some of the storm winds we've had in recent years. Also avoid "bacofoil" aerials sold by many DIY outlets (easily damaged by pigeons!), go to a more specialist TV aerial shop or seller where you could be sure of getting a Group B (if that's what you decide) rather than a Wideband which many other outlets may only sell (and be careful looking at a certain very large online seller that has been in the news in the last day or two!).
I would check out the different brands of aerial being sold and it's gain curve if available (most respectable ones are). Avoid "5G" filtered if you want COM7 for the duration as they are specified only up to C48 and filtering isn't necessarily essential unless you have a mast close by.

All this is not helped by the fact that Wenvoe's tranmission power for the COMs is lower than that for the PSBs not that that always makes much difference. Also remember that COM7 is a temporary mux and will be closed in a years time according to the current licence.
This could very well be a case of experimentation if it's a job you are doing yourself. What sort of aerial have the neighbours got and which way do they point? Have you got an unobstructed view due S - no trees close by on the line of sight for example. Do remember to use decent quality double screened coax.



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Saturday, 9 October 2021
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Chris Pearce
1:03 PM
Cowbridge

I have no signal on FM radio at CF71 7DE in Cowbridge yesterday and today from the Wenvoe transmitter

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Chris Pearce
1:03 PM

I have no signal on FM radio at CF717DE in Cowbridge yesterday and today from the Wenvoe transmitter

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Chris Pearce
1:07 PM

I have no signal on FM radio at CF717DE in Cowbridge yesterday and today from the Wenvoe transmitter.
Aerial is in loft.
FM worked fine until 4th October

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Chris.SE
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3:41 PM

Chris Pearce:

Hmm, rather odd, have your signals returned? I assume you mean BBC stations on FM, if not which stations?
Whilst Wenvoe has been listed for Planned Engineering, the BBC are normally quite good at listing faults or outages but the only one currently listed is -
From 1:56am to 3:33am on 8th Oct 2021 BBC Radio 1 Slightly reduced power due to a fault.
The list may yet to be updated of course, these things don't always happen immediately.
You should be receiving Wenvoe with no issues at present as I'm getting my usual FM stations from Wenvoe.

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Wednesday, 29 December 2021
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