Full Freeview on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter
Brian Butterworth first published this on - UK Free TV
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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.
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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?
If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.
Are there any self-help relays?
Charlton Athletic | Transposer | Redeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club | 130 homes |
Deptford | Transposer | south-east London | 100 homes |
Greenford | Transposer | 12 km N Heathrow Airport | 203 homes |
Hendon | Transposer | Graham Park estate | 50 homes |
White City | Transposer | 9 km W central London | 80 homes |
How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?
1950s-80s | 1984-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-2012 | 2012-13 | 21 Mar 2018 | ||||
VHF | A K T | A K T | A K T | A K T | W T | ||||
C1 | BBCtvwaves | ||||||||
C22 | ArqA | ArqA | |||||||
C23 | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | BBCA | BBCA | ||||
C25 | SDN | SDN | |||||||
C26 | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | D3+4 | D3+4 | ||||
C28 | -ArqB | ArqB | |||||||
C29 | LW | ||||||||
C30 | C4waves | C4waves | C4waves | -BBCB | BBCB | ||||
C33 | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | com7 | |||||
C35 | com8 | ||||||||
C55tv_off | com7tv_off | ||||||||
C56tv_off | COM8tv_off |
tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.
How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?
Analogue 1-4 | 1000kW | |
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | (-7dB) 200kW | |
com7 | (-13.7dB) 43.1kW | |
com8 | (-14dB) 39.8kW | |
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW | (-17dB) 20kW |
Local transmitter maps
Crystal Palace Freeview Crystal Palace DAB Crystal Palace AM/FM Crystal Palace TV region BBC London LondonWhich companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area
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Monday, 27 February 2012
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FJC Farrar6:35 PM
Briantist: I am sure what you say is true - but wonder if work in advance of reconfiguration of antenna arrays in ahead of swithover could be having some effect on signal levels for some marginal locations - although ERP is maintained. Whether this happens or not; it should all sort itself out after the final switchover when Freeview gains from a massive increase in transmission power.
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Graham7:27 PM
Camberley
An aerial company makes this statement on their website with regard to Crystal Palace Transmitter: "Note, as work takes place on various digital transmitters (to prepare for the DSO) you may experience problems, e.g. with certain MUXES disappearing." So, the output power may not be reduced, but this issue of missing Muxes is recognised by a professional aerial company.
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Graham: It's poppycock, the final commissioning testing of Crystal Palace happened ages ago.
Even Digital UK's report says "Crystal Palace main transmitter: ... TV (digital) working normally.
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FJC Farrar: No, there is no effect as the current digital services are being provided by the same panels that have been there for the last decade.
The new equipment is being used for the current analogue channels and will just switch to digital, as it did on the recent commissioning tests, overnight.
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Thea9:33 PM
Good evening Gents, my freeview box channels disappeared on saturday night,it read no signal,I thought the box had gone so went to argos sunday and bought a slightly more expensive settop box, have gone through the scan procedure over and over there has no channels I have checked all cables and aerials, have split the aerial with my daughters her is fine, have spent hours yesterday and today swapping cables and I still have no freeview on my samsung slim tv about 3 years old, could my tv need updating before the switch over or how can our reception from crystal palace transmitter work on one tv and not the other. any advise helpful, thanks Thea
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jb3811:23 PM
Thea: As your query concerns a reception problem the you really have to indicate your location (pref: post code) to enable an assessment to be made on the signal level expected in your area.
However as far as one device being able to receive OK whereas the other doesn't is something quite commonly experienced by many, and with the usual reason for this being that because no two tuners have the same sensitivity its always the more sensitive types that's able to produce a picture on a weak signal whereas the less sensitive types cannot.
There is of course a complete reverse of this situation where excessively strong signals are involved, this being another reason for requesting your location.
Another factor to keep in mind is that there is constant engineering work taking place at Crystal Palace in preparation for the switchover in April, so glitches and breaks in reception has to be expected at any time.
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Peter Parrish11:54 PM
High Wycombe
Hi. Postcode HP10 8ES. Have an aerial with 8 crossbars, installed 6 years ago on pole attached to outside of chimney. Feeds into amplifier in loft and to 4 sets around the house.
Worked ok on freeview until a couple of weeks ago when we started losing sky news, dave and a few other channels - all late at night. Unable to receive HD channels at all.
Tried retuning - no difference.
2 nights ago lost them again and they have stayed lost, even during the day!
Suggestions please.....(do I need a high gain aerial?)
Thanks
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Tuesday, 28 February 2012
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Thea12:20 PM
Thanks jb38, I have a N12 postcode, as you say my tv seems more sensitive, in the meantime I am going to assume I can no longer get freeview reception on my 2 set top boxes and will have to watch the 5 channels until I get a signal again, or wait till the switch over and get a new tv.
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jb381:50 PM
Thea: N14 indicates that you can be located at around 14 miles or so away from Crystal Palace, and which at present anyway somewhat eliminates the possibility of your signal being too strong.
I will say though that "if" the method you used to split the signal was not done by using a powered splitter then that will result in signal being weaker to both devices, the way to test being to by pass the splitter and have the aerial feeding directly into the device that shows no signal, this followed by carrying out an auto-tune to see what comes up.
If this worked then using a two way powered splitter would most likely cure the problem presently experienced, but its best that you don't make any radical changes at present as come April 18th when Crystal Palace switched to high power there should be a massive difference in your signal strength anyway making this type of splitter unnecessary.
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Wednesday, 29 February 2012
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darren12:27 AM
What is going on with Freeview in London and the South East today, have losted most of my channels and done a rescan 4 or 5 times this evening still only afew of channels ! Help ?
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