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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - DAB: Slightly reduced power due to a fault from 23 Dec 07:21. . AM: Radio 4 on MW has now closed. Please retune to FM, Digital Radio, digital TV, BBC Sounds or smart speakers to continue listening. More information can be found on the front page of this BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
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20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
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Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Saturday, 17 September 2011
Colin Wray
1:20 PM

Briantist: OK, I accept the possibility that Sandy C31 is interfering with CP C31, but that does not account for the loss of Mux C & D. I do not have a Sandy aerial, but there is a weak signal from there on my CP aerial on C27 only. (CP and Sandy are 120 deg apart here, with Sandy masked by high ground).

I have now carried out a signal strength check on all channels 21-69, in three aerial setups: CP only, OX only, and both connected. There is absolutely no difference between these three cases. Here is the result:

C21=zero, C22=max, C24=zero, C25=max, C27=30%, C28=max, C29=zero, C31=zero, C32=max, C34=zero, C48=zero, C51=max, C52=max, C53=max, C67=zero, C68=max.

As you can see, I am missing Mux C, D, and BBCB. Can you suggest any reasons ? Many thanks.

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Janice Wilson
4:53 PM
Welwyn

Following yesterday's post, I can confirm that we retuned Humax HD PVR today and have been able to find all 4 HD channels on C31, frequency 554000 (via CP) but these now appears as 800, 801, 802 and 803 not 50, 51, 52 and 53 as previously. The maximum signal strenth is 26% and quality 0%. So, while the Humax box can detect the programmes, we are still unable to view them. This is a big let down as we were happily watching brilliant HD transmissions up until 3 weeks ago.

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Jim F
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7:12 PM

Janice Wilson: Looks like you're suffering from Co-channel interference. CP transmits the HD programmes on UHF channel 31. The SDN MUX on Sandy Heath was moved to UHF channel 31 on 31st August (a temporary "parking channel"). Although SH is north of you, and your aerial is pointing south to CP, there's enough signal being received from SH to cause interference.
The bad news is that SH doesn't adopt its final channel for the SDN MUX until 9th May, which is after CP has undergone DSO (DSO1 is on 4th April, DSO2 on 18th April).
Digital UK's predictor suggests that you can't receive the HD MUX at all at present, through until 18th April. Reception of the HD MUX should be possible from SH, but that means realigning your aerial. Reception from SH is shown as good up until July next year; but reception from CP will ultimately be the best choice (after DSO2 there).
Tricky to decide what to do!

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Sunday, 18 September 2011
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Janice Wilson
10:15 AM
Welwyn

Jim F: Thanks for your feed back. I think you're right as I set the network search to 'On' and that's when we got the new HD programme settings. Unfortunately they have all disappeared again, so having paid for a Freeview HD top set box it looks as if we're not going to be able to use the elements we bought it for until the Crystal Palace DSO in April 2012. Just when all the good HD winter viewing comes onstream. Still the upside is we will be ready when DSO comes but no doubt the top set boxes will be a lot cheaper by then. The power of advertising!

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Matt
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6:48 PM

My BER drops from around 50 to 10 when it rains. How is this possible?

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jb38
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8:40 PM

Matt: It could be caused by a number of reasons, these ranging from water droplets getting into an aerial connection, obviously only applying if an outdoor type is used, to the signal being received having an element of obstruction attached to it, the reflective aspect of whatever changing when wet thereby causing a variation to the signal strength received.

Another reason concerns loft aerials being used under a roof clad in certain types of dense stone type slates, as water on them can reduce the strength / quality of a signal right down even although they are perfectly OK in dry weather.

Or of course you might be receiving the signal at some distance from a low powered transmitter, and rain droplets will have more of an effect on a signal in this type of situation.

But its very difficult to say, as you haven't mentioned anything about your location or aerial used.

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Matt
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9:25 PM

The aerial is a Televes DAT 75 (for my sins) with an antiference mast head amp mounted outside on a 10ft mast on a pair of wall brackets, with a total height of around 9 meters. The ITV mux is the one that is affected the most. It's just that normally when things get wet, they get worse, not better. The only thing I can make sense of is the fact a tree within sight of the aerial has different propagation characteristics when wet.

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Matt
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9:28 PM

Oh by the way, I mounted it. Initially, it was on Midhurst, hence wideband, but then I decided to move it over to CP to get mux C and D.

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Matt
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9:29 PM

The postcode is GU8 4AC

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Friday, 23 September 2011
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Glen R
3:12 PM

JB38

JB38: My post code is da12 1hp. Current aerial is set for Gravesend mast and has always had very poor reception in the 20 years the house has been in the family.

Similarly analogue reception for both bluebell hill and crystal palace in this time wasn't much cop either.

The cul de sac is in a bit of a dip, and my neighbours seem to experience similar problems. (51.4319,0.3746) 

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