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I've had a fascinating chat with a grandmother and grandson about the similarities and differences in the way they listen to BBC audio and today's vauxbox explorers, just why Radio 4 in our time has cult classic appeal as I've often said that really does read and listen to Every message that you sent the program.

It's a lot of these emails and voice notes did shape to show from week to week they inform the questions and challenges that I put to BBC bosses and producers and they can also lead on.

Nominations for the feedback interview of the year and they helped create or vauxbox were two listeners sit down and chat about a program they've had but every now and again.

There is one message and leaves me curious to find out more hello feedback from London I'm a woman living alone and all galavanting on the majority of days for about 4 years.

I have found Radio 4 and now of course and wonderful companions unfortunately amazing variety of programs both interesting and educational and not listened to or appreciated by younger people, but they don't have the luxury of time that we have luckily for radio for two of my grandchildren have come to rely on me to text them alert for anything.

I think they would enjoy or find relevant.

Work or studies the first thing I feel when I heard that was the I've done the same thing with my own kids and I'm not sure how much attention they actually paid to me.

So just say hi, does this work do Elizabeth's grandchildren actually listen to recommendations and has she hit on something that BBC bosses have struggled with three years how to please listeners across whole age spectrum the older loyal listener who spent time considering what to listen to and the much younger listener.

Who's time for te-rich with more audio voices Danny know what to do with but I invited Elizabeth Hilton who's nine her late 80s and her grandson.

Jack who's in his late 20s and received those text from his grandmother to give feedback studio firstly.

I asked Elizabeth House she decides what to listen to does.

She have a copy of the radio Times open on the breakfast table quite is form of that but that's

I'm having my breakfast.

I look at what's going to be on for the day.

I usually what's on Radio 4 first of course but I also look at Radio 3 to see if there's anything particularly.

I want to hear that Elizabeth I know that you decided to send some programs suggestions to your grandchildren.

I did that come I suppose I'd had chat with Jack by the band he was in Ghana which is I didn't know how he would be getting on with sounds over there and so that's really when it started I think Jack are you send my kids and on other people suggestions on BBC signs and of course.

I'm not sure if they're actually listen to the got used to not being listened to by my kids, but I wonder you're better grandson, and she could you actually listened to this yeah, when granny health and said something it's whether the instruction but no to be fair granny is a good shift through lots of the

The Radio 4 put up and she's got a pretty good hip ratio so far.

I think so, I'm grateful for that Elizabeth can you remember what was the first suggestion that you gave to Jack and I don't think it was possibly Louise Casey in the profile program which used to be on early on Sunday morning.

I think it's changed.

It's time now, but now this nonsense because I can't guarantee.

I'm going to be awake in the morning for it.

I think I've also sent to the the programme about the postcodes.

She gets the previous participants to get a random postcode and then she goes off to find an interesting item in that postcode at she finds seem amazing things to tell me a little bit more about your listening habits, so do you listen to live radio with no very occasionally I listen to the Today programme in the morning or though?

In and out and have a very different schedule depending on the day, so I don't have a very regular listening Cadence and the most of my podcasts and other things through Spotify and say I listen to the including to the Radio 4 programmes.

You could go to sounds for that.

I could go to transfer that I guessed that mean gets the one of the things which I think is really challenging for radio is the I don't want to because everything else to listen to it is on Spotify so why would I open a separate Spotify knows my listening habits really really well, I kind of foundational level and I cannot trust Spotify to make good recommendations to me because I've been better all the time and cut telling Spotify what I like which is a bit creepy.

I suppose it's a good user experience we don't suit interesting because I Know Radio 4 controller mohit bakaya.

Talks about the Radio 4 magical garden.

You know where you might just hear something.

That's really unexpected that you would.

Chosen to listen to that appeals to you if you're just listening to Linear radio and of course that's almost almost opposite of what you're talking about what you're saying is that Spotify is what you want and therefore would give you more of what you want and so I just wonder if that's what you think that you do want or would you not rather hear something completely different that you didn't know you liked I think that's certain goodness.

I got a granny for a dilemma of all of these kind of preference-based recommendations and algorithms which is super difficult.

I think I really am back for future to within BBC sounds to help mitigate my lack of finding new things as a kind of randomise Button which I'm not sure already has within the BBC Sounds app, but maybe if I just hit the button and a random program that I haven't heard yet before within my BBC sounds profile could be played or at least I can have a look at it.

Cannot be at might be a nice way of kind of creating at serendipity for younger listeners, who maybe want to find me things but also don't want to listen to live radio and make sure that sounds available worldwide 90 Elizabeth a lot of odourless thinners used BBC sounds regularly, but we also hear from listeners to either don't want to use it or you just fine whole concept really tricky.

I mean it's like anything in life.

It's a very easy if you know.

Hi, how are you introduce to it? I think I was introduced to it by a 19-year old friend.

She was the first from my friends to get an iPad which she insisted I should get and I think she was the first to get sounds as well and showing me how to get a new app.

Is there an easy way to explain to an older person who wants the benefits of a sign is but might be a bit tech phobic about how to use.

I would say what you need is someone who speaks fairly slowly who will demonstrate on their iPad or whatever assistant leave got and who will have a leaf all carefully written down line-by-line about what you do and so you can keep deleted and look at it later if I want to hear after an hour or two and you're faced with something and you press the wrong button and you're down a cul-de-sac that you can't get out of Elizabeth that is actually really good advice from here from older listeners.

Who are the content on Radio 4 is skewed towards a younger audience and I wonder sometimes if that's because you know programs like this or the media show were the Today programme talks about the indeed for younger listeners and high and how to win darling.

I would ever an oven makes older listeners field perhaps that they're not valued enough.

Do you think that there is plenty of Con

For older listeners on Radio 4 well, I don't think all done.

This is need different content they need the content of things.

They're interested in and do you think that can be same content that you're interested in I think it's got to be at it would be a sorry state of affairs if that's not the case.

I think for example the way that granny and I discussed the radio and the different programs that we've had is a good way of getting closer and having shared interests in understanding the same things in a in a very needed cross-generational bridging exercise I suppose it's quite a shortcut talking about rate while the fairs that we like to think we have an impact on and usually we don't but it's nice to talk about anyway.

Have you got any examples of programmes like that that you've chatted about or even that I've been rather conversation.

I think the Baroness Louise Casey program.

Which took a lot about fixing Britain and I think it was called fixing Britain perhaps inevitably lead to quite a few conversations about.

Fix Preston and how we may be are attempting to and our own little ways which also I think speak to a difference in in generation granny is still drafting and sending letters with maybe have more the WhatsApp voice notes that I'm ok, then.

It's sending two different people Elizabeth do you enjoy comedy on Radio 4 about 40% of the time probably? I am probably quite good it right.

It's not bad.

I'm not very much for find of the 6:30 programme on Fridays I used to be when my husband was that was an excellent start to the weekend g&t while listening to the 6:30 comedy the now so possibly and it was a good to mix of them every six weeks they changed but I'm found recently that the latest one with John Holmes The Naked week.

I'm really enjoying that.

And I think Jonathan pie, I've enjoyed that as well Jack have you heard that? I haven't heard that one.

No I used to listen to some of the comedy on on Radio 5 Live I think when my dad would drive around in the car will take gases a good day 22 live radio and these days.

I will occasionally turn on.

I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue but other than that and it will do that on Demand as opposed to to when it's on I would be interested in finding out more and to your earlier point about the stumbling upon existing programs by listening to 2 live radio I suppose I do miss out on the chance of finding new programs that haven't listened to I just found it interesting that such a small country is Britain produces such an amazing difference in people's Outlook this is it should be a good idea for Radio 4 because it produces all sorts of different things to help indeed various Communities come to it by Jack and Elizabeth thank you both.

How much for coming onto feedback and sharing your stories with us no worries? Thank you.

I hope that chat underlines that feedback really is your program and comments really do make a difference so please do get in touch with what you think about anything you've heard on BBC audio the easiest way to do that is to send a voice note on WhatsApp the number is 0343 444 5004 and you can also ring that number and leave a voice message the number again 0345 and you can send an email to feedback a bbc.co.uk and is BBC R4 feedback on social media and if you've heard really memorable interview at any time on any of the BBC's radio networks that you think is a worthy contender for feedback interview of the year then, please also let.

We compiled a list of all your suggestions and then convene a judging panel and I'll be Revealing the top entries and of course the winner at the end of the year here's one of your suggestions.

My name is Isabelle Clarke and I'd like to commend the interview on BBC World Service on you stay with Dr Tanya Hajj Hassan who had just returned from volunteering inside NASA hospital in Gaza and you get a very powerful account of what you were witnessing what you and living what you saw.

I wonder if you could just take us back that time and just described to us.

What does stayed with you from those powerful images it was honestly it was terrifying and we received so many casualties that night.

I had kids and emergency department.

It was mostly entire family that we were seen in their pyjamas in their blankets.

It was horrific.

She managed to describe all this message way with control passion, but you particularly wanted to get across the way in which what really happening in the ground as if she was in the middle of in Gaza not being properly reported by the media and as a result of this distortion Western societies were given with giving permission to the elimination of the Palestinian people but has particularly struck by the that she never mentioned at all the way that she was obviously in constant danger of death.

There is nothing I can say.

Slate the importance of a witness on family with children children parents children almost all of their siblings and children that will be leaving for the rest of their lives with permanent disability felt the interviewer did a really good job in just allowing her to talk and treating what you was great respect Dr Tanya has and I can hear how emotional and Powerful this is for you to speak to her.

I want to say thank you very much indeed for just leaving I'll set your testimony and what you've seen and at what your colleagues are also experiencing within Gazza itself, and I just feel like more people should hear this interview.

Tanya Hodge Halsall talking to presenter lukwesa burak on the BBC World Service NewsDay and it was no one by Alicia Isabelle Clarke when I talk to listeners for feedback regardless of their age or where they come from there is one program that often pops up as a firm favourite.

It's in our time that discussion programme where melvyn Bragg consults a group of academics on topics as desperate as 12th century Persian romantic poetry or where life may begin in the unit.

It's been on there since 1998 and in that time.

It's a must a dedicated following not usually seen for a program that routinely delves into things like the mind of pollination or the finer points of aristophanes lysistrata.

Well this week 2 of those dedicated the feedback box box and Nick are ready.

Started on in our time has achieved the status of a cult classic.

I'm Dr Hamish Todd have a PhD in molecular biology and The masters in computer science vol I spent most of my life in the video games industry or computer animation of one kind or another I'm not giving I teach classical Theory at the London School of Economics I'm I supposed almost 10 years ago now at University of York where we are both undergrads.

Hello, how and where did life on Earth begin and what did it need to thrive and could it be fine but where are these are some of the great and answers questions in science I started listening to another time when I was a teenager so the majority of my life now.

Yes, it's even got me through some tough times.

I might be least listening to it at 2 a.m.

Or 3 a.m.

With my girlfriend have broken up with me or something.

I first started listening to it a lot when I got my first job which was

Quite boring and allowed me to listen to podcasts in the background and so I would just so download 10 and then sort of what I was doing the photocopy and or something.

Just be listening to me personally.

I just think with melvyn Bragg is the best broadcaster or yunohost of any kind that I'm aware of in the world.

He makes it so that he knows a huge about the subject but then he also is able to put on this way.

He's perfectly getting them to say the main thing that needs to be explained in that moment then if I can add one where we have got to get a move on.

This is really crucial point of Luxembourg in he's got it out of them.

We've got to say no that's not the right thing to talk about in this moment you want about that thing melvyn.

Bragg has the art of asking a simple question down to 82 synthesis is and why it's so in.

Photosynthesis is one of those things that you always read about about it is obvious that he he does get it, but that's not the point that so so the questions are ready for you the audience.

I completely agree with what Nick said and that's what made it just one time.

There's one episode on King Lear and it made that episode all entertaining because melvyn Bragg for once it seems to me felt like saying his own opinion about something every every speech almost connected to the usual sort of run of psychology tools like everyone does a set piece.

It's just great to hear him once say I'm going to I'm going to be centre of attention for once that's also true on the the Legendary industrial revolution episode.

What's the most significant transformation is history where there is kind of a proper to be right with him as one of the participants to use to think there's three men branded.

What would you say? What would you say to 3 but we must get away from it all by the peculiar inventive ability of British Science Alliance episode was like that.

I'd maybe wouldn't like it because it's focused on the minutiae of you one question but it's just a great to have that one off where it's so it's so argumentative are the superiority of the British as a racist characterise some really Industrial Revolution have now disappeared.

Or something we talked about before is that the earlier episodes tended to be a lot more arguments today almost like stage Debate and then it becomes more that it's like loving brackets for conducting this Orchestra but they're all sorts of telling the same story and then it just occasionally that breaks down and they stop it stop fighting in our time.

Somehow has the ability to make you feel like the world is full of serious people who are looking at every little thing and taking that thing so seriously and finding that it's full of Beauty I mean slime mould is kind of a great example.

Yeah, that's some grow grow.

Still thing you see if you're out walking one day translate logic seem to cover most of the tyre tread and computer scientists are using them to sending a bit of space to take that on and you wouldn't have heard about that kind of about it.

I would never heard about it.

That's for sure yeah, and I think as well as they're being niche and and having an episode like this line mortgage with just kind of out of the blue some of them there does seem to be something systematic going on right side over the years has been to have one on every Elementary particle and it seems that there's been one on but I think that has been won on every planet and then on the moon and so as someone who has studied was a formal engagement Science GCSE it is like my main source of education on the solar system and popular physics basically.

Yes, I actually think it's a seriously educational resource if you choose any person, I'm sure there's an episode out there for them.

Thank you very much indeed.

I enjoyed it very much indeed, so there's a lot of people who say they want.

Desert Island Discs but it may be said something about Nick and myself that you know weird more dream about being on in our time that would be a very very nice that will be quiet.

I feel very good, but I could be on there Hamish and Nick there in the box box discussing Radio 4 in our time will many listeners.

Enjoy that as a podcast and I can tell you that several years worth of episodes available on BBC signs that was no longer going to be blocked overseas in spring which of course would be about now as I've been a nice back in February the planet been that only world service and Radio 4 would continue to be available over by the bbc.com app, but the statement we got from the BBC said that the move was going to be put back until later in the year and importantly that bbcc.

Is was working on plans to have BBC stations available for listeners outside the UK on alternative platforms prioritising those markets for demand is highest this in BBC Radio 1 radio 2 Radio 3 6 Music 1Xtra and the Asian Network as well as stations on the nations and regions and local radio and he signed won't be blocked outside the UK until these plans are confirmed well from most of this series many of you listening overseas.

I've been expressing your very strong feeling about what it would mean to you to lose BBC signs so it's not surprising that last week's last-minute reprieve got quite a reaction.

Hello.

This is thank you for your continued attention to the concerns of the BBC sounds listeners outside.uk I am an average daily listener from Belgium

Discontinuation and replacement of BBC sounds to bbc.com has been postponed and the content will be expanded however you can send does the plan changes in tail only live listening will be possible so the undeniable added value of being able to listen to recordings of broadcasts in the possibility to browse the rich Archives of all the broadcasts and episodes fire BBC sounds will be lost Patricia there's no firm news on Heidi stations on the platforms will be delivered, but it's a very good question for the BBC when someone does join me on feedback.

My name is Kevin I live in County Kildare in Ireland I strongly feel that sounds should be available in some form two people in the Republic I'd just can't imagine my days without Radio 4 6 music by certain bits of radio to Radio Ulster centre.

Thank you back for your coverage of this important topic.

I live in donabate, just north of Dublin in Ireland I was delighted to hear of the pores in the BBC's plans to cut off access to BBC sounds for listeners outside the UK is reassuring that BBC management now seems to understand the importance of allowing continued access to all the domestic radio Services to loyal audiences by the people living abroad or the millions like me who grew up with the BBC and For Whom it's always been a cherished part of our lives Simon and I've lived the last 35 years and then I welcome the BBC coming back on its decision to remove access to the stations.

We currently receive on BBC sounds processing getting there in a beauty contest is the saying goes let's hope that the new service is not largely determined at the outset is the announcement on feedback seem to suggest this is Bernadette Melbourne Australia

Is good news at the BBC sounds availability outside of the UK has reprieved however it does sound like the delivery plan will still provide listens outside of the UK the new players with a sense of foreboding the BBC statement from last week also went on to say that it'll take a bit more time before there's a clear update and when there is someone will come on feedback and talk about it, which I'm very much looking forward to but that's all for this week from me and all the team here.

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