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Why do YouTubers and podcast there's one government recognition at embarrassed about made Media joins us to discuss the perils of secure mortgage is a digital creator controversy and Channel 4 picking up the supposedly parcel.on Gaza does the BBC need to reset its news coverage that Edmunds can you still to see that after you vomit and consolidation is the media business about to get a lot simpler and my audio Network Media quiz we try out another shiny for destined for prime-time probably club for the first time Tim Tim over from Australia lovely to be here in the dream factory even more lovely to be in London in a week like.

A week ago I was chipping ice off the car windscreen in Tasmania and here.

I am now in the week.

Maybe when she goes back there around in the UK may be best known for Media we can being extra needy week here, but it was my first thought of for am writing a banned the media industry, so that was that was UK where are the media week as it was very much about the relationship the commercial relationship sales and the the media agencies so short for a into into Dubai where I launched with the launch editor campaign the campaigns Middle East Edition and then yes about 20 years ago.

I got the Quarter and headache so I do that for a couple of years and I am Australian

The market was very kind of fun and knew I was told that business a few years ago and then you you ran your own Media Empire substack at sp2000 light sort of weekly print titles at the time.

So we should have came through the middle.

Just one of those traditional B2B publishing things you are running conferences running Awards running events, but just not having a different component as you say yes sold in towards the end of 2017 stuck around for a while then ended up.

Oh, I was lucky enough to to be part of the substrate program that they played it for a while of funding from Germany to come in so substrat fundador first year of a van made and then when we have the opportunity to be part of the

Brought back mumbrella earlier this year we now have I made an umbrella both part of the same family return return back to the old place.

Who are you adding to our roles as your plus, what is very excited to have the opportunity Matthew prince.

I'm going to like this CEO of cloudflare which is one of those patients which we we don't really know what it is, but it's a fair and we don't appreciate it until it's not so it Powers the back end of most Media publications.

We know that sort of security coming up scanner people doing the fairest things keeps your site up and big sites.

It is and it will just thought if you're getting a lot of demand then it will cope with that phone on for you now, and this is Matthew declared content Independence Day now really what this is is and it's a great.

It was great.

It was actually because of course it framed around blocking.

I scrape arguably what the media world should have done 15 or 20 years ago when they lost the Grand Tour to talk and search and this time is the opportunity maybe just maybe for Media owners To Understand by a monetize then so it's nice it so it made me think it's from Die Hard that line of welcome to the party pal large-scale impacts on a lot of jobs out if they want to know how quickly the demand despite leaving now.

We actually noticed just last weekend or Monday at the southern and he started running slow because we were getting so much AI scraping go out on the other you know that.

Media owners across the way it works with bandwidth is we're paying them for the privilege of them scraping are so yes something about addition because they fix a website that's good to Karen who are you going to add someone this week, but she deserves to be but I've been watching a lot of Wimbledon and I just want to give props to Clare Balding who always.

Just such a fantastic job sharing all the coverage for BBC at Wimbledon on BBC I think I particularly want to take this moment can adjust represent the work that they do on that show throughout the piece because BBC right to broadcast in is potentially it's coming up by 2027 it may or may not still be with BBC now everything Lee of course the the way that are constellations are Wimbledon is one of the kind of sports that has two.

So that's really nice, but it will be you no need to be broadcast free-to-air in some way, but they can also share the Covered out, so we could watch discovery you don't what's the there's nothing on that doesn't have to be on his phone.

So what's the French Open on TNT had to buy a subscription to do it got a bit grumpy about it even a fantastic.

So yeah, I think just let but take a moment to represent Claire I've ordered some of us have super freelancer really she does that Crufts on on Channel 4 all those things yes you been excellent memory I think a lot of fun as well perhaps up for grabs in in a few years time is Glastonbury of them off the BBC Sports rights holders.

It's a lot of.

The money on the success of Sky Sports have dropped sports owners to decide what they want this way the phone and listen to Martin Sorrell present.

He was making the point that sports rights particularly live sports are the one thing holding up the traditional design even when I was looking at my my transcript rather than transcribers live sports it transcribed as life support which feels appropriate it doesn't television and also the thing that Netflix on the same as really want to to take on Nexus now, you mention it until wildtangent got the future for Agencies with by the man you think about breaking them up and that is the most hilarious man who created wpp as

An integration power house now he is running his own smaller shop in family nothing for me to be broken up just hilarious crisis after Consulting thousands of independent creators this week YouTube released report saying the UK government needs to recognise their contribution to the creative industry comes after audio you could last week for pre-match the same thing for podcast is saying a podcasting and audio are no longer fringe Media they are vibrant fast growing Industries that reach millions of listeners thousands of jobs and British creativity to the world what the government thinks people want want their blessing.

Well.

I mean it's not just so they do like the photos.

I think you know the way that we report our statistics changes a lot about how Industries get funded.

Get respected are able to accrue funding from investors and sofa and right now YouTube and I think.

Broadcast it's not broken out in that way, so it's not fully reflected and it's rude more as a as a DIY media as opposed to their true professional me let me know these things you have lots of impacts in terms of kind of how the right has seriously they're both be treated.

You know funding inflows and even just accurately representing Media industry today looks like I've been both but particularly audio side isn't recognised in the government's like creator group and I guess I guess so yeah you can you see the attraction because it just gives it that extra level of the tax credits things in the UK really been pushing the tax credits for

The forecasters, there's a bit of a question whether it was still even going to see them the tax credits survival or be expanded for the telly and then the government a sort of short of a bubble to is the UK's demands gonna fall on deaf ears.

Don't think they're going to be necessarily looking too kind of an extra tax credits for the Bunch Ashes although.

I would give it would be a better place for them to spend their money then kind of Master Chef they're trying to make just bought a I just in terms of where the money actually end up because podcast as are there is a huge UK baseball gas industry or the AA work is actually in the UK contributing enormously to the UK economy, but so yeah, I think they would be so argument for it, but it doesn't feel like that, so we'll be coming to mine tonight.

Yes, I would love to be wrong one of the

As well with tax credits is suddenly become such a political hot potato because of the whole us situation with anything that looks like a subsidy suddenly very happy.

I don't have a problem with that.

We heard what he said about the the film industry and standing firm against that so all of a sudden there's just this extra political dimension which makes it possible to Heart yes, it is easy to ignore water pump into the long grass that you had the largest organisation with my umbrella then became a creator did it reset your views when suddenly you just you and your keyboard, but I suppose I guess because we go with mumbrella Richard become quite big but it started offers me in front of a screen and a Wordpress template so I suppose it felt.

Really more like going bad.

It was deliberate and I was fascinated by that as a form and of course it's it's particularly friendly and designed for individuals or small groups of people the tools are so good.

You know it it did 15-years or whatever it it.

Did feel like I'm going back to bed early exciting days of WordPress and these are stories that rhyme with you with what's happening in Australia at the moment.

Where's the where's the evolution in media is it is reflected? What's happening here as well? I think one of things is I think we are seeing kind of a simplification of the expense.

So if he if you look at kind of some of the ownerships of the Saturday listed Media come 9 would be the biggest locally listed company big TV network back in 2018 then merge with Fairfax Media which was one of the big publishers.

There in the process of selling a real estate platform domain which We Owned 60% of which is given them a little bit of fun and now they spend some of that money on acquiring the Premier League rights which are the local one of the local telcos it certainly feels like what 9 are doing every simplified to being predominantly at the centre of it alive sport Campbell still doing lots of other things as well, but with similarly saying a simplification of a couple of the major audio companies so Southern Cross austereo her one of the old are TV licences go audio only just this week.

They are and media the other player and therefore of aligned with the wither heart kind of globally but they creative agency.

That's taking that so everyone seems to be like recently.

I don't like a reaction to a more complicated.

So you want to make make things simple for your for your investors or all for your clients has its own problems and then it faces for the what's the capital city of America and for a I had a bit of this week is the BBC every week as much this week for the BBC I was uproar over Glastonbury live stream that included and the violence for the Israeli army and the news that the most recent god I wish to be kind and then it was picked up by Channel 4 answers to BBC disasters by a bit unlucky, or is this a problem with their own making yes, but I do want to thank you very much for coming to me because anybody who has just begun.

Are they related issues always comes out well of it, so I look forward to my immediate cancellation, but yeah, I think I think I would take the two things a bit separately because for me the Gaza documentary is a judgement the Glastonbury one is to be fair and I think they're already one of you and let me live broadcast.

Are you know go in the way of the dodo because it's just not safe enough for BBC to do a live broadcast anymore.

I love Dora live stream.

He does it was not even a broken.

I thought you had nobody who was reporting on it sort of understood what it was it was broken how it was broke, so as I understand it was playing on one of the sort of subchannels.

What's a stage it's estate agents of lower down the list.

I imagine thousands of people that.

The BBC iPlayer but it was not on BBC One in any way shape before and I think it was reported as if it and then you could because literally saying is you could pause and go back and see it if you want offended you could you could rewind and be offended and I think there was a bit where they cook if they pulled it would have been a bit of a technical pain in the ass and I think that's what drove a lot of the decision, but of course is the so they are so you know any content in areas where the challenging and of course you know you have to be really concerned about anything that that could be legally in in the territory of attractive violence leaving even leaving aside the political situation.

So they were very they were in a very tough situation with it better, but I don't think I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that they could have known what was about to happen.

They could have technically that with a bit better, but I think that was in the category above.

Bob Dylan absolutely, they could have seen it coming a van niekerk.

There was a little bit more, Worn Again and of course there are probably a bit better prepare them to to reactivate also there's a bit of this you what's the story of the Year how the BBC send all these people to Glastonbury so like ok, but a lot of which are actually volunteers and hotels and nice to send people but also they are working on it and so I bet that's a bit of they haven't got as many people as they used to do that the cover a lot of these things also didn't help that Tim Davie make a decision on the day about this to but then on the gods documentary BBC choose not to put it on and instead channel4.com picked it up.

I'm into this is what was a different more minutes for a decision by the BBC Who basically said that they sorted food like when she was fine, but they were concerned it would give the impression of being.

I mean, it's dangerous.

It's really tricky territory and I think and the fact that channel 4 broadcast it the next today was a very next day.

I think of when the BBC broadcasting shows you how dangerous territory the BBC is operating in and what a what a fine line.

They walk in Frankley stumble over quite a lot of the time even before is also a public broadcaster in it in a different guys.

It is on the one that they are perfectly free to make on the other hand if they come out and say effectively we did it because we thought it was a book Lily's entertainer even though we think with editorial the fine then you start to ask, how can you know in a conflict that has two sides in which month is happening analytically you would like to go to say what we're doing is editorial in making judgements in the best interest of finding the truth and reporting get to oradea.

But I think I think you can order another way because I also think the BBC also has a right to make editorial judgements based on its own role as the type of broadcast that it is and Channel 4 how to make its own editorial judgement, so I thought the opposition so you got everyone argue way how the BBC police documentary 4PR reasons why Sinn the same week there pilloried for selling a thing and being terrible during loads of bad PR it.

So this is what they were trying to ward off with with the dog and you have the added layer.

There's the letter that went out to sir Robbie Gibb who's on the board.

We talked about how many times in the past and so there are some allegations question whether he was involved in the editorial decision if that were true then again that would be troubling and not what you would like to see you in the board is not meant to be a dictator interfering with that level so there's another layer of attorney.

Me that we have to look at and then request a letter went out from hundreds of credit across the UK again.

I've got into Robbie Gibb who I think has plenty to answer for a return it since we see in Australia than you do basic tomato to this on on the ABC I mean a face similar issues that the BBC do it in the interests of other media companies to give me a kitchen.

Yeah, they they do say yes declaration of Interest I do present medial and I'm not a spokesperson for the ABC but yeah, they they certainly been quite heavily size for what some people have seen is to meditate.

They report the conflict of the absolute flashpoint there was there was a presenter just a filling presenter the Christmas before last for a week.

She had some posts about the human rights situation in Gaza and there was a lobbying campaign.

Went into the the chair at the time what we then learnt later because there was a court case was that she passed on these messages internally but management Under Pressure until they took this presenter of the air Antoinette the truth of the are halfway through her only shift at work already got a week.

She went to court successfully sued that she was wrongfully terminated so that that was only came in last week and reading the judge's decision is absolutely score rating of the internal decision-making you know it was it was very clear that the management were willow bead and was influenced by the Love It by the lobby was very concerned about how things would come across so it's hard to argue that they weren't they went suede there is a PR

It seems almost dreadful to talk about the implications of military disaster and you from both sides issues that happened but very active because they want their point of view and see what being in all forms of life, but it can be he can be chilling in particular for the media organisations.

It's difficult you can choose to live and much easier life can't you if you if you choose to cover some other stories? I think this particular the Gaza Israel conflict.

I think it is probably the most difficult no-win situation of anything that we do with and without naming any names we have clients who have been you know gotten into hot water for this and literally in several cases for not because they have any position on the conflict whatsoever write 10 gentle things happen, but because there is so much heat on both sides of those because as you say it is a violent and horrible conflict and both sides.

Weather toilet responsible the it is a no-win situation and so and so I am not surprised considering you know what we see for my clients have desperately they're trying to say out of this territory together and how that does not favour them right there isn't there is no Safe Space away from Israel Gaza conflict specially if you are a global company of many of our clients are I'm not surprised of the BBC is is getting it as bad or even worse especially considering the delicate for the position that they're in so the only thing that you know I can suggest as it's just all of my clients sit down and have a good thing about what your principles are there? What is the Mission of the organization? What are the what are the core beliefs that drive you and your customers because people are going to criticise you no matter what you do.

So decide what you stand for decide what you do.

Come up with a good rationale for a kind of what you what types of vitamins used to be making this basis, because there is nothing you can do to avoid the criticism.

BBC's case I think they would have a really good.

I think about what does journalism what does journalistic integrity have mean to them and specifically what is the journalist role of a public broadcaster and I think the conversation about balance.

I think my personal opinion has caused the BBC to lose track a little bit because their mission is not balance their vision is serving the public now is your Gaza is a particularly you know thought there was horrible this horrible things to say on both sides, are there is no he wrote here, but you know I think it's really have to come back to a confirmation that would always be my voice to to my clients would be stopping think about you doing why you do it all of you listen should be based on that.

Hope it in Davy who is running the BBC I mean a lot of landmines that he has stepped around a crazy, but it by some trap, North

What's 8 offline about with the organisation should be looked at that more closely.

Do you think it's bad news for Tim is going to survive this one about the BBC is he never know which is the one that's gonna get him in the end and that's you.

Have a look at the history of the last 20-years.

You know as often as not ends in failure, but if you if you to the beginning of the crisis.

You probably wouldn't have known that was the one that was going to do for them.

So I just that when it comes.

It'll be it'll be a bullet but he doesn't listen to wardsend.

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Yeah, he's doing very well out of it.

We wouldn't legally want to call it bribery so would definitely won't do that time.

It is very very concerning to me how quickly and how comprehensively media companies are Rolling over and I think it's just a sign of what.

That it is now Media conglomerates rather than journalistic practise that is that is taking place.

I mean the interview was a pretty I actually saw it if it was a pretty ordinary presidential election media interview as you do and I think the notion that a broadcaster should not broadcasting interview with one of the two major party political candidates close to selection.

Just doesn't stand up to the last task.

I'm fine.

It was a hundred percent is absolutely nothing nothing inappropriate about it is absolutely clear that they would have lost that case had it going to trial but it is in the media and complete best interest to not do that.

So the 60 minutes team and the CBS news team about how they do they do anything can they do anything the drive for that business to be?

Salt is so important to the madfest this week.

I know what this is others might not a media advertising and disruption yes and then festival festival obviously and advertising people don't don't do conferences and festivals.

It's a bit like the most likely more famous can Lions the Festival of creativity over in the South of France of course? It's so it's it's on a big scale sewing likes place at the Old Truman Brewery on on bricklaying you know I'm I'm told I've I believe the number that is more than 15000 market is coming flowery, so it's it's it's heaving energetic.

You really get the sense that most people there.

For the kind of non-traditional part of the median everything's digital you couldn't go more than a few more than a few very pale legs, but then you couldn't go very many metres without people talking about that was absolutely the central thing and of course you know the real question and disruption around the communications industry.

Generally include network marketing is is jobs? So you can follow in here looks of he can refer to sort of Media planning and buying jobs.

Maybe 250 around the world mostly going 1 things were just fascinating was he talked about a couple of Facebook and Google products so one of them calls L K Maxx which is 4 months maximum the other one advantage plus, but effectively what they are.

They there and actually at the moment at small advertisers.

Small and medium-sized advertisers and the idea is if you had a piece of advertising you need you just give them the information they create this is older.

I they create the out of them.

Just rung the campaign you don't know it's just a magical black box and you you get the result of the other and that's quite fascinated.

Yes, and that's quite fascinating anyway now so was arguing with ok.

They'll do that.

I'll make it work and then they go to people's Enterprise the big end of anyone who works in a creative agencies or media and she should really worry if that happens because you know that arguably the platform was already got 70% of the advertising slice of pie which doesn't leave much left for anybody else and maybe they're coming for a little bit more.

That's that's certainly sir Martin Sorrell but if you're caught the

Why now doing S4 capital get my hands dirty and I was quite like the targeting of it.

You didn't work out the groups and his target and now it's Max plus.

They let you do anything it's like the are you sure you want to go to the old version just you don't you need to do any of this is quite.

It's quite stunning.

It really is when I go in but it works as well as after that is the question you can't necessarily see what's really going on you.

You just have to trust that it's getting the result and of course in a people.

Love in the other toes what they love to talk about things like tribution modelling deciding which part of the advertising actually worked and of course it should be complicated you know because who is to say whether it was actually that add that got people.

Lime rather than the poster or the Builder the word of mouth or the the newspaper out for a car 10 years ago that influence U21 they want it but when is it supposed to be working then, then I suspect advertisers will keep going with her.

Do you think there's a traditional and modern Media to keep up with this have they got enough products from cell to cell to backlight or do they have to basically by the way the non-ai company a little things we said about being ok where the artisans the people with with people humans you like me as you know.

I only small medium business and certainly we try for our position in the market to be the ones where ok when the news will will do the opposite because I I do certainly an honest could have a chance that often you'll see this kind of wave of press releases coming into the inbox of which you sometimes suspect.

With the aid of Jackie BT and then I suspect that some places there then being written to news stories with the age of Jack GPT there once every human has their own agenda to read it on their behalf.

It's going to be an awful.

Lot of news going through the cycle without any human involvement at all produces.

No human.

Is it even news if you can't be bothered to write it? I can't be bothered to read it.

Just get your chatbot to do it for you British Australian take back on Britain you now out of both of you.

Get to look at both sectors without outside.

I is there anything we should be learning from Australia or vice versa come back.

Maybe once a year or so and it's funny because I do notice just a little change like the billboards on the underground a moving now or I can't seem to get the standard in the way I

The Metro feels very thin so they're all of all of those signals a I think the one the one I suppose indicator for the wider world tour Australia was the news media bargaining code.

So that was the law that effectively said the platforms that had a kind of unfair position in the market and at the time.

They were you thinking of Google and matter and could be forced into this mechanism.

Whereby if they were designated by the government.

They would have to negotiate with publishers about the value that arrived and it could then go to arbitrary kind of ruling on which of the two proposals was right the publishers or platform and they would pick something in the middle though pick one or the other which was obviously quite risky for them and rather than the designated.

They did this whole series of deals to effectively gives.

Publisher this is this was about about 4 years.

It was a shape down and all the things you know there's absolutely shaked and he did provide a lot of funding you know when they're in the tens.

If not hundreds of millions of but Facebook has since said it's not go on it and I think the platforms learn from what they did an Australian stud Firma in other places we without seeing the Australian government their new policy as what they are what they calling her an incentive scheme whereby their status as policy that they'll be a digital Levy on the platforms, but they can offset it against the deals were doing the publishers but that was before Don was power and of course anything Levi base to suddenly become completely radioactive so so whether the Australian government actually has got the tikka to stick with.

We will have to say I don't we facing the UK as well with a digital tax incentives.

Ok, just not time for the audio Network Media quiz, let's see how much attention to the media.

I guess I've been playing this week this week's called a Reversal of Fortunes the success of ITV's lateral thinking game show the 1% club.

I will give you a media headline in reverse order you just have to unscramble it and tell me what it all means and once again Alex audio network is gamely taken up this brief from producer Matt and supply the playlist to school today.

So it's the best of 3 buzzing with your name if you know the answer so Karen you say Karen and Tim you'll say Tim let's play a Reversal of Fortune views million 60.1 with record viewership Netflix breaks season.

Game squid so it's Netflix Netflix is good news.

Good game season 2 coming out and lots of Us season 3 Netflix viewership record with 60.1 million views.

Have you watched this season? I have no I sorted now that I hear that there's going to be an English language one.

I just feel like to time first the 4-month a $8.99 audiences.

Don't know I'm waiting for you to say us charge to set news BBC

The weather was waiting for just to be sure yet see so the BBC very likely to start charging overseas audiences starting with the US you there wonderful content is 899 a month for the first time.

I mean it's the way forward for lots of news publishers BBC should be in in this market in the US very very very well regarded the answer.

Yes definitely I think the the withdrawal of the BBC world service in it is very disappointed because I think it was a really powerful force for soft power for the for the UK large, so I'm not a fan of kind of Raising

areas for people to consume BBC continuity is cos I think it's actually been very good for the country and very good for the BBC reputationally but you know it's a potential revenue source.

Let's see where it goes ok for a final reversal.

Wrights sports UK value impact to pay TV

Indify Tim yes the actual prediction which I've made this prediction many times myself and always been wrong the next round of sports rights are going to suddenly be worth less than the last one and then every single time we are proved to be wrong because some Martin Sorrell was saying on stage the last thing which what's the hold-up is live sport, so I know there's another prediction that the next rights when is going to go down.

I don't believe a word of saying that it's going to get down to see what happens with that makes you Tim winner congratulations.

It's part of the prize.

You have to try and import the quiz to your own peacocks medial and I'm always happy to stay good idea my thanks to Tim Burrows and Karen Robinson and of course the network for this week's with music remember you can build your own licence for multiple platforms anywhere forever at audionet.

That audionetwork.com keep up with your good work.

What which networks are you orbiting at the moment? So I'm also have a substance that I use for my own personal fiction writing to keep you put up with my journey as a as an aspiring novelist still trying to sell my Facebook and I've got my dream so that's my little time for that and you know what's the space another kind of news from my side of things we've been of interest to the people that I've written has been shortlisted apg strategy awards and how to do a presentation this week to see what colour my eyes is going to be the time we have a 1 something but I don't have to go silver ronso find out in September have all the usual podcast places that plays have a look for us the medial and 4 mumbrella and unmade.

Thank you both.

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