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I not see you again Kate welcome to the first time in lovely.

Thank you very much lovely to hear your background and comedy entertainment producing commissioning.

Are you having fun enjoying it? It's a different business and they were trying to navigate the collapse of television by a little bit too online and moving into branded space and basically anybody will have us really and it's learning processes Like Starting Over Again yes, why would a bit more about it later, but who do you like to add to a media Club member list this week like everybody else I have been great buy a Dyson and it's it.

I mean I dreamt about it last night.

I will episode 4 and then I went to bed and bumped about it.

So Stephen Graham is going in for me.

I mean it's partly it's highlighted the fact that he is an authentic voice for working-class men samosa and he is basically good in everything he does see you know he's had notice but I hadn't noticed.

Extent having watched it.

I just went through CV and it's an extraordinary CV he doesn't mean no he doesn't he didn't do stuff that that doesn't work as far as I can say is in the production of this piece of work and it gives us all a little bit of Hope as well, because it's a British story British British actors minutes is an incredible piece of work and he said give me the week this week or would you like to add to our our club the ship? Well, you know I'm more on the business side of business and I think Jane Featherstone who actually wanna broadcasting press Guild Awards the highest award at the award for outstanding contribution broadcast would be my pic.

Obviously there's a whole bunch of other people.

They're interesting bike chain.

This is a important time for her now with black doves.

That she's done obviously sister Productions has gone from strength to strength interestingly.

They close their la office late last year which now with my probably the right move the last time is it in the hand but it just a promoted someone inside the company that they just seem to be really leaning into drama British drama.

Also drama that stuff actually works in a course.

That's really important when you're running in the you have to be able to monetize across multiple platforms and territories now.

You can't just rely on unfortunately on them the British Masters what speaking about the British TV industry tools to meet international demand once he has put their head above the parapet and cold out some of the shoes.

Who is it this up-and-coming person Ian Burns Murdoch because if you read it isn't he said anything she just said.

Really bad isn't it? It's been awful.

All this stuff with everybody struggling has got a vast power and she's got a bad person, but she has the ability to put pressure on government don't just reflect how old is do something about it.

She could do something about it.

She can set up scheme secret influence government lovely government do something about it rather than just say yeah, it's really bad because we all know it's just you know it for me 22 defenders miracle.

I am going to rain in this case because I think I actually of the Rock she's one of the people that text you been pro The Talbot Inn just because she's been in it.

Yeah, she is come from money and it's not like she doesn't have a couple of seconds to to rub together, but she's got a sister as well and they are doing.

Lobbying group Heart and I mean that the thing about the the crisis and television is it's not it's not just because we don't have enough tax breaks.

It is partly that it does not just there is enough money well.

It's because we have just the plethora of platforms that are out there competing for all the town and then it's really tough.

It's not you know.

It's there's a whole bunch of things are going I think the big one right now.

Is this bundling of Rights a primary and secondary rights a huge issue, and it's something that you know sister and Interiors and all these people are so hard against in talking to partner about which obviously is speaks for the Independent sector in the UK in UK as we all know is so strong because they actually able to hold onto secondary rights and they have to negotiate for primary and secondary rights separately what is been proposed that won't happen anymore.

It'll be a bundling of the secondary rights.

The new picture show to say I'll be busy and they say what you will do it, but this is the death that you have to find as what you would do now as you go and find it take to make up the difference now busy with the saying is that the the broadcaster mean the BBC in this particular instance would be able to come back and say I will match as rewrites but I'll pay the same money as whatever distributor you found but of course I want a piece of flesh do they are going to want more rights than when I hold onto my right because that's how the Andes get make money because they're alright so I can explain another markets in that's how they create their business and grow and you'll be in Euro in the you know what I'm talking about so it's it's at the whole bunch of things that are happening and I do think a lot of the big industry players are Torquay very hard against this particular thing is that a huge issue right now.

I'm with the other side of the fence as a commissioner.

I just I just find it.

I said all that I just found it galling when the Murdoch's or rather her father has spent decades to enter the British Broadcasting in his own image to than them to start saying all yes, it's really really awful.

I keep getting a lawsuit right now trying to strip Liz and James of their inheritance and they're going to court and they lost an appeal so me know Rupert Murdoch and lachlan.

Are a very different cats basically we should make up about 80% of the content on PSP channels British on the streamers is 10% in actually there that the program and for the world when you're on the way.

Side of the fence and shows to use a fun some of it I mean, it's the top position you know that this is a great idea, but I need to produce to go off and find some more and it's like them televisions become like movies now.

I think a big question is where the the UK can keep three public service broadcasters going I think I think we have to look at I mean the the landscapes completely changed and I think they almost need to retract and sit down together and BBC Channel 4 and ITV and and work out some sort of deal were they can either work together or loosening of handcuffs.

Set a good work is spread to them, but yeah, I mean it's a very difficult as a when I was working for UKTV it was difficult.

Student in a we wear a small Weiner points of our way, but we was a small broadcaster, and it was a very difficult to fun things we had to choose the very carefully we have the BBC library excuse me he said he had a huge advantage as I move into the void world and everything else so I have to take to take a little bit wrong with that.

I mean I mean that but that that was so that's that was great and the Foundation of our business is built on with their ideas as the secondary rights or the fact that the producers can own elements of these brands and take before would have been to him.

That's the that was the swap to get that content onto like day.

I mean I think you and Dave I mean, I think you're a bit more flexible than the broadcasters.

You know if I show was successful and then you were renegotiating the second series then.

Set the things were a bit more flexible, but yeah, it's ok.

It's a question and everybody's asking now about rights and I think we're headed towards the States early.do heading towards not just television I mean the comedy in particular in your you know more about this and I do but she said that comedy is something that is really hard to commission on a just the broadcaster alone.

It has to be something else to be branded content there has to be something else going on there has to be another revenue stream and all that can I have on YouTube play some of these other platforms is not gonna happen on our channel for BBC at least not solely in my opinion I mean but that's a whole of episode comedies think that's probably 34.

I can think of now.

Where is it used to be a very healthy part of our menu put on at the world service broadcast media network but has decided to carry Lake slightly scary centre turn politician that was gonna be sent in there to turn it into Fox News for actually, she's been given some other instructions to shut the phone down.

I mean in the media.

If it's against him if it's fair balanced or against him or anybody but he wants to shut it down.

What's going on American terms of Media is really scary the VOA closure is just the most recent and the problem is it's happening so quick.

Everyday there something I mean first associated Press was banned for the White House press briefing because they wouldn't say go from America instead of the name which is Gulf of Mexico omicron Sarah Palin going to the course we know the court or not being pressured as well.

They've tortured in trump administration is third law firms do anything with the Democrats I mean? It's just a little things mum would kill the Columbia student who has a green card.

Ok has a right to say whatever you want in the US is the same rights as any other US citizen as a green card holder is now Incorporated because he will courses protesting about in our Palestinian rice and things like that and trump is inside of it.

He's going away on the side of Israel and everyone else be there around and so it I mean it's very scary so there's a lot going on in terms of looks a suppression of of the media in general to support.

Will I would call without pulling any.

The fascist overtake of of America which is for somebody I mean is a journalist and no starting my career American then have been over here for more than 30 years.

It's really really scary because you know it's a big country and has a lot of clouds and you know the video it was America isn't perfect Ballymena no, it's definitely sending out information to countries that don't get any pallets information it also so the fact that he is going to shut it down and get one of these soft power of things you know sort of power is very powerful.

You get rid of those kind of things whether it's usaid or the American benefit the benefit will benefits dictators in fascist.

I don't need it from Erica set up in 42.

Set the Nazi propaganda.

I'm saying nothing.

I think this is such systematic of the Insula nature America's becoming more more insular and a larger sets of power think I think they underestimate the value of it and I think we're the same with the world service you know there's a lot of because we are reducing our output of the world service and repair funding back from now.

I think again it is our influence world is shrinking world services doctor who pays for it and pay for it.

Then do CeX pay for it your help and BBC pay for it, but someone that comes from the labour is slightly more stuff towards that serves work.

Do you think this gives a better opportunity when BBC's renegotiating? It's license 40.

The world service to get the UK government to better support it because we await has disappeared to pop smoke that I mean I was that we're seeing sort of a shift to the right around the world not here as my mum just great so yeah, I think this government would probably say yes, let's let's pick up the mental and try to get short of the Western democratic idea of free speech in media balance Media out of the rest of the world particularly two countries that don't have any kind of 3D at all those with very disappearing.

There's there's opportunity as a principal world service for outfit trainers outfit you want to get to media Now by your phone wherever you are in the world pretty much and the vpns and even even sense of things you can still get think so.

Was it is less important than that spective I totally disagree yeah.

Well.

I mean I mean open internet VPN in China right ok, the other thing is that they need ok? If it's less important.

Yes, you can get lots of information on your phone but who is providing information and what kind of news ghetto are you in if you see what I mean if you're getting all your information.

I mean look at what channel 4 Dead with your generation Z stuff delivered this idea that these guys are getting more more depressed.

Is there any sort of rabbit holes of information? They don't they are not getting what I would come balance fair formation and if we close down more of these kind of organisations.

That is not a good thing for Democracy in my opinion.

I will be back to BBC licence fee chapter around Weybridge

The conversation hopefully labour will be a little bit more generous because you know we've had bad for 15 years of BBC bashing and I think the prices envy of the World as the last one really says about but it is true.

I think you know it's the one of the last bastions British pride.

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I'm incredibly powerful.

I mean I suppose some for those who haven't seen it.

You haven't seen that I mean.

It's extraordinary.

It's basically shot life but I suppose it's shot in one take and it is there are some extraordinary of camera work is episode 21 of the kids jumps out the window runs for sprayground the camera jumps through the window with him and goes with playground and then the kid goes to run across the road and then suddenly the camera takes off when you thinking how the hell have they done know so essentially that you're running with him and then there's a handover to a drone of the camera, which I mean.

I don't think that's ever been done it.

I'm not worthy been done before but this was a tribute to it is the very quickly you forget that it's all been shot on in one setting how many people get to give me?

I was thinking of a position where you could say, I will that gets in the way of the content, but I don't think it does I mean it creates an atmosphere every episode 3 difference.

No, I mean a couple of episodes are trapped in in in in particular space or couple and it's just so emotionally Stephen Graham extraordinary as a as a father of boys.

It is so move them and I got my kids watching it, but I mean as I said earlier.

I think it's office a real Beacon of Hope because it is a British story British technical team British director in all the actors in the sum of the main child actor has not acted before in anything create.

Three he is extraordinary as well and that that is again.

It's all done live.

I hope you know what's in it and it's fantastic, but some of the smaller parts as well some of the kids.

I just brilliant and it's the first time of all you know all of active Autos interesting.

This is it's like Netflix top 10 in 72 countries really very much for British story about you being locked in Britain and video stories about a kid.

That's about school is about in life and death and parenthood and so you know it's it's it is pretty universal interview with.

Who is the writer Netflix squid game using that as a as a positive in episode one with the the playground you can see you can see that influence as well.

Cos there's so many extras.

I mean to encourage where to watch your cousin 24 million people of what should already so but it really really is quite an extraordinary and you forget Award Ceremony minutes one already mate.

Just give up anybody else next year broadcast.

I think it would be pretty well by the Bee Gees last night.

Who will you be going to go through the more but it's in the post office I mean.

Always obviously won best drama the other one that I would pick up that's carmody Gavin and Stacey the finale which I thought was brilliant.

That's nice Traders won again.

They're she won last year's dress entertainment strike out for me.

Where stuck out for me where the best actress Jessica gunning for a baby reindeer on Netflix and I'm sure everybody seem that travel all around the world that she she is you know extraordinary on that and I think that's you know that's a real Testament that she would win that award and then our best actor always my diary for rivals now rivals press.

You.

Don't like this.

You know Jilly Cooper how old is this Sunday in spark and castles in the 80s and talk about you.

Of course is brilliant.

I think that's why the gills awarded it to him.

It was there were lots of other factors in that category, so that's good then the other one.

I would just maybe talk about is Bella Maclean also arrivals 1-hour break reward which is sort of that sorted 200k pay attention.

You know what that's really nice that that that she want as well.

So that would be my pics, but it was a good it was a good list.

It was pretty good here quite British which like a Best documentary series actually Freddie Flintoff field of Dreams on floor one which I thought was a great show as you think it's a good idea also Netflix and Mensa took home the

The best executive yeah, that's a jury prize award an interesting what happens in the Guild as we have the mirrors road, and then we also executive committee who looks of things and it was agreed that made no sense because Netflix has done interesting work and then is really been pivotal in in putting all that stuff through so there's not one but two senior which one are bigger Ward C1 Audrey Prize for best executive and change for the sun one or halide that are really outstanding contribution broadcast to work with this amount for about so it's nice to know leading your British pro drama 14 and it's great to have them both win champions you swap to swap sides, is it a bit more blurred now skills?

Basically, I was commissioning for about 10 years and I just thought I'm a gentleman gentleman of a certain vintage and I thought well you know about back and do some stuff again and I thought you know what's the worst could happen.

It's not like that.

The industry is going to collapse.

Yes yesterday.

I did collapse I saw spent about 12 months.

I like everybody else just like a rabbit in headlights and he was also commissioning with me at Dave we should have we were talking close friends.

We talking quite a lot about it and and fundamentally people aren't watching any less content if anything in the watching more content but watching it on different medium.

So I think we stop moaning about it and do something about it, so we set up squares with.

Just supposed to do a designed to be flexible as possible so to do podcast to do branded staff to do YouTube Reese and brochure.

You know very happy to take commissions and from television as well, so yeah, it's a bit.

Thank you.

You're right.

I mean it's a Brave New World and you know and you know what I also think you know what's a lot of branded content like at all of us do and a lot of it is trying to be funny and isn't space similarly and you think well.

There is a huge amount of people who've made a decent comedy as well.

Somebody here now.

Just clicking clicking her heels and run up.

So why not use that that Talent so that that's the logic.

So yes, so if anybody would need anything I'm using me.

Please, let me know and it's come out with Cheryl 4.0 people don't know what that is.

It's the least it's the channel.

Is it from the channel for our pushing Ahead of the game was suffer with brand of stuff and they are very smart and they are innovative and they work really well, they themselves runs on the bronze contact them.

You can go to them with an idea.

They can fit a brun to it or brand can come to them with an idea a vague idea and then they can contact you know look at the did the shelf ideas.

They've got and put their be ideas to all they can contact them and the visa to do that.

I mean it's a different world by you having to please a brand directly and we've been doing this for a while and I think we evolved is it's become more than just parked.

Something is really nice and early on it.

I think you're right Channel 4 is really thinking differently about it.

You look at how much money the influences are making on YouTube with branded almost push broadcast into more interesting place because some of the creators of any innovation and change you've got to be nimble and to be creative.

I mean fundamentally when we were making stuff for Channel 4 and ITV before we were you know the adverts were coming at the start and the end of the shows so there's no it's not just not a huge leave.

You couldn't hear you couldn't say unpleasant things about Sunday products over at I'm trying to round your show so you know you can still be innovative in that space and that's what I mean.

Obviously the comedy entertainment Talent that's important part of people with some strong voices or kind of takes on the world however.

They were this journey to about where they're.

Richard you know what I think comedians and Comics again have been a head of the game because they even though they've seen the opportunities on television handle quicker than anybody else.

So they they've adapted very quickly to the to social media and the YouTube space and they are there.

You know they changed them accordingly so I think the less snooty about him some some people won't go near it.

I think enabling is much.

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Still here because they have desperate to play the media quiz ITV announce the reboot of a UK version of jeopardy.

I thought we have a child run with three stories from the week.

I'll give you the answer you just give me the question 32 best of 3 buzzing with your name.

You know the answer so Kate's you will say Kate and Ian you'll say let's play jeopardy Stephen Fry Ian yes is the host of jeopardy UK which has just been recommissioned I believe yes.

Exciting commission broadcasting the new host of jeopardy today brought back gladiators that brought back.

Do you know Taylor brought back? You know it's like I'll come on guys.

Let's try something new come on.

It's like I said trying to be to say for you Mr you know when your boss is you're saying get me some was gonna work in Risk aversion, but it's obvious that risk aversion are UK

A huge fan of there was no audience and knock it out and I mean that's there's a lot to be said for that the Scottish that's just been asked by the BBC Ian what is River City that's right.

Have you ever called episode of there in how many it is a tragedy because it's been going for 20 odd years.

I believe and a little production in the early and you know what sport does soaps.

You know they are a real training around and people and so it is it's a tragedy for the people of Glasgow when I guess.

Is like three new shows of the back of it? I don't know about the people involved and sad for the industry up there, but if it's not it's economics mean if it's not the landing and the doctor's both both series which are really useful for the industry in the state.

Don't have a place anymore.

It's tough year 3 the radio station.

That's lights to F1 for 3 years BBC Radio 4 BBC Radio 4 still only needs people go on a track is commentating a bit of Resurgence 14060.

I mean person who just gets on my nerves get us in the world football cup and you know I know a lot I know a lot of people enjoy it and so good luck and go whoever the British guys is a whole new audience to Formula One I believe and you know there are in this huge audience for and how much is the same as extraordinary to me but good luck to them good luck to them baby performance in the wind like really surprised you get to go to 17 next time.

Would be a decent think they're all around the world of you will be paid stories of their right column for broadcast magazine, so that's probably the best way to do it and Ian have people keep track of your new commissions square pairs.com square housing the fruit come to us with nothing too small nothing too big preferably medium-sized immediate refund.

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