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Hello welcome, Amelia club, I'm your host Deegan in the club today Prince Harry settles with news group newspapers, is that fine in the end of the phone hacking Saga has the head of pr for multitude Media reflection decade of Trials on the programme called Mr beast by tiktok Jake cancer investigations editor at deadline reflects on a turmoil at the Chinese social media firm what happens with the TV production losses it's tough challenge during filming.

We look at the Big Trouble in Big talks latest show that the m club welcome to the show a deadline is tomorrow cancer who you going to add to our Media club rolls this week, but I've gone Vincent birthday.

He is a works reporters without borders.

They have along with other major news organisations including the

Lead complaints against apple and it's AI technology which has been reengineering headlines and making egregious errors including suggesting that Luigi mangini who was behind this Killing of the unitedhealthcare boss in America had shot himself that Netanyahu have been arrested.

This is just a solute Lee awful and I cannot allow I can't believe that Apple allow these mistakes that happen and it is absolutely right thing that is withdrawn this technology and is making changes to make sure it doesn't happen again unusual actually that they have thought of reversed that's not normal what you see from tech companies.

No apple particularly is often Reston to engage with these kinds of complaints and issues so for them to have responded in This Way I Are

The seriousness of the matter is this a not just like headlines that you might see absentmindedly scrolling these notifications potentially to millions and millions of phones iPhones around the world and you're a really delicate time for trusting journalism for Apple to be perpetuating disinformation or misinformation because not intentionally is just hugely damaging for everyone involved in person to add to our 2020 rolls.

Hello hello out a Jack rock in the big boys team who had a screening for the final series this week of the big boys.

I think actually with the law.

Shadow of the Gavin and Stacey special over Christmas I think there's been a really productive conversation going on about comedy comedy on TV and I think you know I think people don't necessarily understand all quite quickly forget the battles that go on to try and get a shower even like big boys to wear to show to the Edinburgh fringe years ago.

He's talked very open about that journey, and I think you know I'm sure there is a really interesting production journey flat show that roughcut had to help navigate as well and we get to enjoy and see that journey of a show really find its feet and and it will come to an end with this series starting in February disclaimer rough Carrara client always bottom.

I just wanted to give a shower and I thought really eloquently at the Edinburgh TV Festival last year about the challenges facing particularly people from low-income backgrounds and and he was.

First I thought that also not acknowledged the geographical differences well.

He talks about the fact that he grew up in London Dalston of the outskirts and the fact that he still had more privileged than people that live north of the M25 shock horror and it's something that I think we do have to Delve into more so he's my edition a good comedy so difficult and and you need to give it time and there is an awful.

Lot of time in the commissioning world is there yeah and again to use the example of Gavin and Stacey I mean the numbers that draws now dwarf.

Thought it was getting at the style though it resonated very quickly, but it but it does take time and it demands.

I think a little bit more productivity from odinson, but also in no dramas.

You're not necessarily extracting the same sort of reactions and in the sense that if you can judge comedy is just by

Thank you laughing, then.

There's lots of companies that do that you judge in the kind of flat sperm in it almost but actually it has evolved but it but it does need time and it and it needs support from budget from a budget point of view.

There is a growing move to try and call for kind of tax breaks in the way the other forms get anything.

That's really important because we do know me better than anywhere else on earth it does travel and when it works we all celebrate it.

You know drugs away from some of the grim realities of life, so I think we need to really comedy and it doesn't need the time to succeed while you mentioned Prince Harry well.

He said his long-standing case with news group newspapers as the sun and the news that was a long with labour peer Lord Watson seemingly bring an end to the phone hacking cases on Fleet Street Jake is that it for phone-hacking as for the Murdoch's.

That have you stopped it certainly felt that way this week.

I'm very very high drama.

You're going into this no one absolutely no one expected Harry Potter to settle his talked about this is a moral crusade battle between good which he paints himself as an evil which he characterises Rupert Murdoch as my literally use the word evil to describe Rupert Murdoch and yo for it to be settled in the way that it was I mean even on the steps of the court but within the courtroom they had to mock and like an appeal because the judge wouldn't give them a German so they threaten to go to the appeal to secure time to the trash out the final elements of this settlement and then yesterday you have dispatched called in which David Sherborne

top 1 Tom Watson wear outside of the court delivering very powerful statements about what I taking place and claiming victory and I do think.

Harry Prince Harry and Tom Watson conditionally claim Victory Here I do think they're a lot of oxides for for News UK as well, but they have managed to extract drag out of a new group newspapers this apology and admission for the very first time that there was illegal activity commissioned by the song by the way, I mean that's a very important point and I'm sure I've been very painful taking early for nest as part of these negotiate.

Yeah.

There is some plausible deniability therefore News UK and newspapers.

They can say that this activity was carried out at arm's length and may not known at the time and I think the fact that we have a settlement means that would probably never going to get to the bottom of some of the things that people settle.

Up to this point if I was reading about this so if there was an offer made and they will let stop will give you a million pounds and then if you went through with the court case and then the judge of the court decided you would need you half £1000000.

She would you less than what was offered you're on the hook for both sides legal bills and this goes to to such a large a large degree that everyone basically had to give in how it was always the view that he's sort of someone that could withhold that but even he gave it at the end.

Was it money I mean we told it's not money we were the reporting yesterday was that there was an eight figure settlement, so that will be over 10 million lb Prince Harry's always talk about it being about accountability so I'm sure money.

Actor but what is managed as a say what is most drag out of news group newspapers is unprecedented and that's why he can legitimately came some sort of Victory I thought the quotes that Watson gave in his stone yesterday was that he wants thought that these tabloid newspapers have no Predators but he was wrong.

They're Predators was Prince Harry in that apology there was an apology for basically have the newspapers and acted over a large proportion of Harry's life and particularly the life of his mother.

I mean there's always attention between tabloids and celebrities.

Are they sell newspapers or generate clicks now now, or is it just it's always been the same it continues to be the same think it does continue.

I think I think social media has changed that quite significantly.

I think I think we're with newspapers.

They used to be the view because they were the main out.

Provided the scrutiny when people were also enjoying the private time in their Private Lives and there was a way of managing that and just keep yourself out of trouble, but I think social media has changed that even in the reactor starting your career now you come into with an understanding that you will be screwed and you can use that to you to your advantage, but I think people are much more aware of kind of Media managing themselves.

It's been fascinating really seeing this play out and obviously hacked off will really can a trumpet thing from their point of view as well as at this is a victory in A vindication and and I diverted to Jake and I'm fascinated by the view from journalist people with the newspapers because I think there is a real danger to look in this world.

We need a really vibrant media and newspapers and online outlets.

Hold power to a cat to account and it's important to draw the distinction and I think we would agree that practises now are far better than they were 15 years ago probably you know 5 years ago, but it's you know I think they are equally the truth is the sun said they haven't done something for you is the day of now admitted with caveats of it being outside freelancers or whatever that they that it did happen and and again that does flat Tony Benn on the very fine journalist doing an incredible job and I think that's where will be a lot of Anger Within the industry although I did get get off the train at London Bridge in the the big shiny.

You know News UK building is still standing so I'm sure they'll be determined now to cannot get on the front.

And put it behind having the view is that they may be spent around a billion pounds on all of us something you switch statement yesterday and I assume that those statements were if not agreed between all parties then at the very least they were given Fair Warning to each other about what we're going to say it at outside of cold and has not been tested also didn't stop the song on the day.

I apologise probably news stories about a Prince Harry and eat anything about this morning.

There's not a single story on the Sun website about this settlement which is kind of Extraordinary have been something in the newspaper.

I haven't I thought they would have said they had to be played on the left-hand side.

You would like them to because you would like them to own it and you look we're saying we are a different organisation this wouldn't happen today.

You know and make a point of going with drawing a line under it with admitted that something that shouldn't have happened happened now.

Let's go forward or don't write about it make it a complete elephant in the room and the Rift being that again it calls into question the credibility of her of a prominent voice within the media that had also you know we need you need newspaper outlets to be doing a fine job or else.

We're all stuff the times did report it.

I think that's important to note that it will change how the tabloids report on Prince Harry I don't think it will change much about the way that they report Prince Harry I think they're just the brand that is Auntie Harry so much.

They can't get out of that person and they got a just keep running but I think I think if you surveys.

I don't think I need to be told that he's an awful person.

I think a lot of people hold that the thing that I find really interesting is whether as a result of the settlement the sun might have access to I mean they probably don't have a lot of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle but I wonder whether it might have broader implications for the access to the to the Royal family can't help but think about how King Charles may have been responding to some of this yesterday whether he was proud of his son for what he had achieved to extract this also at your recognition that Princess Diana was mistreated and her privacy was trouble one as well.

I think is significant and Been part of this game is so boring households have been leaking air date.

They enabled quite a lot this reporting as well.

Yeah.

I mean I'm not I'm not exactly what was being to him, but you

There's no doubt that the royal family use the press to their advantage when it suits them a little bit.

Yeah, I mean again not know nothing about the inner workings of the royal family in there could have media setup, but I guess they can play in a few ways.

They can kind of girl but it's not us doing this kind of curry favour or yeah probably yeah.

I'm sure along the way I mean.

I think that was a quote so I hope this is true that King Charles has said it's you know it's suicide actually seeing this through and I can't imagine it is gone down well in the can of the Royal institutions but also I'm just a bit bored by The Prince Harry Meghan can we kind of have a little bit of respite now.

Maybe we can all agree a bit of her and having to sleep.

Is the absolutely going to people going to watch I guess that's the point is yes, I'm sure there's been people can have really stuck and anti sentiment because it helped there for everything else going on but but it obviously people are clicking on the articles people must be reading about this stuff always have we got another case stuff to come the Daily Mail group.

He brought that case in conjunction with other major celebrities including surround John and Liz Hurley Baroness Lawrence as well.

It's also part of that.

That's due to go to court in January next year it remains to be seen whether we might see another settlement out of court yesterday.

They were asking lots of questions about whether the authority should be carrying.

Investigation it doesn't feel like there's the appetite for that as well that maybe the story is slightly I think that would be interesting to see because I think the you know Leveson 2 has has completely die down and it will be interesting to see whether it I'm sure it again if they were members of hat off hear that go right.

This is the most really see that for everything the government have gone off the idea that on top of his list of things to do and she's got plenty of other like seriously within hours of the moment.

I don't know I've not seen a statement from the Metropolitan Police as to whether they might look further into this.

So it's not beyond the realms of possibility that music a person's face is further investigation.

We were talking about.

The the credentials of the media of the newspapers and media news and all of that is hugely damaging and really regrettable I think because you can see the pattern of them people by social media and platforms were they will just completely get fake news, but it open you know but it pours fuel on the fire of people that stand up where their president's or is a business going fake news mainstream news look look what I did there and I think none of us whatever kind of political views.

You have whatever can have whatever you get none of us benefit from the social media platforms has been a tumultuous week for tiktok shutting down.

It's up in the states for under 24-hours.

I need to switch it back with Trump's inauguration now works if you've got it, but you can't in America download it from Apple or from Google but the story is far from over as US

I am a purchase if they get Trump's blessing a Jake Elon Musk inevitably in the running for for this 0 Monopoly concerns there, but there's also another person who put their hands up Mr beast he's keen to to join the phrase released during one of the Club Together the man who delivers and delivers on big scale, so it feels like there's some truth in it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's all sort of quietly goes away and Donald Trump find a way to make sure tiktok is just doesn't even need to be purchased by an American Byron and survives as it is.

Shuffle between the law that was passed before you to go but a lot of Republicans as well and what she wants to do there has to be in place deal to allow a tiktok back on the air by so oracle and one of the CDN providers that sort of allowed it to be turned back on there.

They could be fined for US in pounds a user which could add up to 2 billions, so there's a lot of everyone's taking over what happens with yeah, it's because from even suggested the Larry Ellison who owns and found in Oracle could be a buyer it.

It's all a bit.

I think there's no doubt that Donald Trump holds a lot of Cards here, and he will be seen as a source of Savior by tiktok users which is no bad place for incoming US president.

And I wonder whether you know the fact that the CEO the tiktok.co was at the inauguration.

Shochu suggests that I'm sure there's all sorts of conversation on behind-the-scenes.

Maybe even Trump is trying to bring tiktok to heal like he has done with American tech Giants maybe even telling them to reduce their the trump algorithm turn up the trump and they would be just fine in America I don't know this is all speculation on my part about giving a permit.

There was a very very cold trumpian buy a permit from us me whatever to to allow the back into a notification saying that juice for a conversation with President Trump tiktoks back open I mean they're they're kissing ass like the rest of the Protector and I think trump had suggested that a buyer could by 50% and the other 50.

By the government and you get into this world again, so we can have criticizing the fact that we think China owns tiktok, can I buy dancing yeah, so but then what's the saying? Let's get all the other governments involved in you no policing potential free speech of exist.

So I just think I think it should be wave through if we all agree that we have to just miss the Beast the next inauguration.

We have missed.

It will be like a WWE like assembling of characters from in the billionaire's that these platforms and have far more influence than anyone ever has red hatted trump supporters and the brains were in front of the cabinet in the inauguration.

Yeah, I mean if there's any description of what the trump administrations like to be it.

Yeah and look the world has.

Hard very very wealthy individuals who basically did say how things work I guess the difference being there is a lack of regulation in terms of the rise of these companies are they have a kind of global power that even Rupert Murdoch would envy and yeah and it's and we have no understanding of how data all the information they gather you know that the values being put a trillion-dollar valuation on tiktok suggests and that isn't because there's lots of people posting very funny videos on that.

That's because data is incredibly useful and again not just to get you to go to your local supermarket and buy something because it helps stay the geopolitics of how the world works.

So it is it is scary.

It's hard to be too scared by someone called Mr beast but I mean what we should all probably be very scared.

Anything but your clients is it just become the Essential platform.

Do you have to basically play? No, you don't no not at all.

I don't think you do I think if you're I mean I think for production companies and I think for you know we've got a team that do live tours.

It's incredibly useful and I think where it proved incredibly valuable to our clients was particularly to comedians during lockdown and things like that is they found that that was where they could do you know lots of the comedy Talent that we see doing really exciting things have have developed that voice of their heads on these platforms, but you can still I mean not the reality is also the 1 safety valve against that we all have is we could just stop using these platforms if we all stopped using exit does diminish the value and like tiktok, but it does feel like that horses altered quite far ahead there a follow like it.

Becoming a ghost out and Elon musk's heart Nazi salute this week.

I don't think we need them do we need it last it's an yeah.

I think it's really ill and it's something even just with mates you discuss come off next because otherwise you just you know you you validating it or what but then I'm always have the belief that there is he can persuade people or you? Can you can you can remain a voice of but not influence on their whatsoever but what I mean in the sense that don't let things become Echo Chambers but then you working against an algorithm.

That looks pretty well designed to Stoke anger or frustration is driven by emotion.

We had a tiktok viral hits from the media club last week, so I'll chat about Scotland and the traitors did like 70000 views on tiktok on my bike 140.

Reviews on a story about the uptake is it dry in Scotland even not in the media regarded that the reader comments regarded as that's typical for what happens here in Scotland now a lot of people don't necessarily understand the broader story you can't always do that in her in a minute long clip things get obviously gets used it impact on us Media on Wednesday his FCC news with a chair instigated investigation about bias at CNN ABC and MSNBC going him and his team are really going to go for the m on they might have already and their pursuing lawsuits and they're making these intimidation threats and they're doing it and it's working.

Teen evidence of companies now taking steps in his Direction settling lawsuits making donations the trump museum in the case of in the case of ABC and Disney look forward to I just think we're going to see more of this going forward and it's troubling a really is troubling BBC said it's not the fact that they coverage but but the resources to cover the sheer volume of trump activity that actually quite complex to hold them to account.

I think one of the really interesting things this week and this is sort of taking root in a lot of the commentary around at the inauguration and and the executive orders that he's issued since power again is that there's always a sort of apathy there's almost resignation that trump has now accumulation all the parent and is able to exercise that carried away that we've not really seen in American

Before and the media the news networks in particular not holding into account in the same way because it's become normalised.

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What can I say what else happening in the media industry this week? I'm glad you asked prime video is moving more of its TV budget to the UK that's according to Amazon UK Bosch crisper speaking RTS event on Wednesday the post office won't be on the cards say it was too British to be on the strimmer DC Thomson is trying to cut 35 jobs in clothes for magazines as part of a cost-saving strategy.

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Back to it and sometimes go round in circles a bit.

What's it going to be in for etc? Etc? I mean CBBC if you come up with some some policies everything seems relatively straightforward and a joke.

What is really sensible essentially this all three principles of the harvest there's act in the best interest of the public prioritising Talent and creatives and being open and transparent about where at AI technology is being used with audiences and those all make a lot of sense.

I think the BBC has a real responsibility to be a leader in this conversation old audiences hands through some of this debate and you're writing a lot of it can be quite amorphis, but as soon as I get specific people have very strong feelings so some Michael Parkinson podcast he's been Revived form or more in the last few days.

I don't know if you see any stories about AI being used to sort of tuna.

Accent the Hungarian accidents on the brutalist movie and it has really exercise people in the industry more and more hungarians are my voice give me a better accent the Hungarian language dialogue has been tuned up using AI to make it some authentic interesting.

I don't have anything from this was basically nothing in use so if you had BBC nothing AI news if you want to do something need to ask first keep out of that part.

Yes responsibly being the most important thing about three principles of transparency and and being really clear with audiences where this is happening how it's happening a why is happening and I think that will get us some way to.

Adopting AI responsibly both in the interest of the industry and for those who are consuming these services would like a bit of a iTune up to you seem better than they may be alright something to make up to how I feel about having their performance tuned up because I think I just cried and selves on you know delivering their own performance and I guess it would be similar to two singers that have their voices tuned in ensuite.

What does it right? Yes, so stressed Adrien Brody is his performance is very authentic to him and what camera to the points that Jake made at the start.

I think we're all loved something that could come along and make it all look great, but I think they were genuine fears that.

No, it's not quite there yet and I also think you know this is a really complex discussion, but I think the authentic authenticity and our own quirks and no humanness humanity humans have a value of people like that within the BBC's guidelines.

I think the stuff about subtitling.

You know translating again if it's done accurately.

I think that makes sense as if they did some transcription and the automated some to say hey we've been assisted by exactly and things like that.

It's an administrative support.

I think that that all makes sense but but I think we still really far off again leaning on Jake's examples of where it goes wrong before I mean if my team started telling me that they were using AI to issue press releases I've been credit.

You know yeah, yeah, we'll get to a point where actually not including a I will be a source of stamp on at this publication off this program.

Is is a i3 possibly.

I mean a bit like additive-free food or something.

I mean I think people at home only care if it starts in fringing on quality and accuracy particularly the news and things but maybe maybe I mean it's I think what that again the phase and the real genuine phase are at when people start losing jobs and had I think again me flippantly saying subtyping sounds good.

I'm sure there's brilliant subtype is out there going great.

I now have work.

So but it but he call me the world does revolve and we all have to kind of find ways to adapt to it earlier on.

I'm getting second series commission to clean comedy and buy strimmer off an even harder, but big talks production of the completely made up Adventures of Dick Turpin clouded after its star didn't return after the Christmas break at this is an Apple TV show with Noel Fielding what's happened, so I'm just providing a context.

This is just so unusual this we will rock you are brains in the office last week to think about comparable example and we really genuinely couldn't it's it's very very rare that I prestige show like this explode in this way and yeah, I feel for everyone involved.

I'm sure it's not been easy we have been told that the series is dead.

They won't be able to salvage anything for season two even though they filmed about three quarters of the

The reasons as to why it is going this way, Noel fielding's agent has said there was a medical issue.

We in the Press know a bit more than what is being reported.

We are bound by the privacy law and Noel Fielding does have a right to privacy in this is private medical information and therefore is responsible that we don't report on these things but we know that there's a medical issue.

I think that there is little doubt that him the accusation is that he went to France over Christmas and just didn't come back.

There is a feeling.

I think it'd be talking at all that that was a responsible thing to do and it has put people out of work and put a creative endeavour in the mud and

Yeah, as I say, I think it's a shame because this could have been a great returning franchise.

It's got amazing comedy attached with told that the likes of Jason Isaacs and Dawn French were going to appear in the second season with of been robbed the days before this is in what is quite a fun vehicle for the British comedy Talent so yeah.

It's a real shame.

If you're obviously they are almost in a table for the existence of these of these Productions they are but also the human and without I don't know any of the buttons round and it sounds from or trick saying there's quite a few sensitive is around this so yeah, it's you know leading a show and and your name being above the door is a big responsibility and comes with a lot of.

12 and it's just quite a sorry story.

You know you've got lots of crew members working and it's been really tough time for them a huge production team and it's a popular show what you know we're ready to watch it again.

So I just hope the some better Outlook popular bit surprised by the leadership some of the stories about this information about that my mind Italian big talk and Apple TV at done their best to make sure that prove been looked after throughout this process and you're trying to make the best of a bad situation in the challenge is always without that enough information some people can go.

Oh, he's not really sick he's not sick enough and it's impossible to to balance a knock on his father to his other work got Bake Off coming back obviously discuss that crisis talks always crisis thought but big question 4.

Channel 4 about whether they stick around with no law or twister someone else.

Yeah, I think there is definitely big question marks about Bake Off Noel Fielding spokesperson has said that as far as I'm concerned Noel Fielding will be returning as the co-presenter of the next season which begins shooting from but ultimately it's not necessarily Noel fielding's decision Channel 4 Productions which which is the production company behind Bake-Off decide that they don't want to encounter similar issues.

They may well decide to replace him as the presenter now.

I'm not saying we've got that point and none of my conversations last week suggested that was imminent rot.

I would be very surprised if those conversations when taking place right now.

We'll have essentially to bake off been up all night so strong and it's such a role of program and they've changed.

Post before a huge deal if they find someone else, I think I think Noel Fielding brings a lot to not show for such a can of mainstream format he brings that I miss her and I think he's very well loved and analyse you say I think haven't gone gone through a few lineup changes.

I'm sure everybody will be very nervous of do that again because it's not easy you now and again everybody is fighting so hard for an audience that to give you as any excuse to move away from things whatever is it is a huge risk, so I'm sure that everybody behind the scenes.

We working very hard to try and make sure that doesn't happen if he's present to change proof though.

I will we with yeah, obviously mel.and.sue Leven roster of co-presenters for Noel Fielding come and go so yeah.

No, they've shown that the format is is the absolute agent who would quite like to see you then?

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I mean I just doesn't tell me about the story doesn't rise and clearances said one of the quotes in the press that story is very funny.

It's like that.

He said I was asking if they are new to the internet and everybody posting links to stories that contain Alamo pictures and and ask them to cough up cash as well.

Play peace now.

So this is for the win the planning application for Marlow film studios and maybe push through depending on the outcome of a public enquiry that started on Tuesday but what's the budget of the proposed film and TV studio in pounds from Marlow film studios check TV studios TV videos I mean I would say I'm going to go with a billion pound well with the right area 750mm the head of rest with the Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner Jake you win you get to investigate whether we should be on her own studio his for the media.

How do I get 700 million how do I get the big question what's coming up Will came in when you ask me the last and only time I've been on I suddenly got flustered because if my team was sat here the ones that do all the hard work and would tell me we're getting into it.

You know in the fourth rows of Awards season, so we look at the BAFTA TV awards BAFTA games BAFTA TV craft, so we'll see you a lot Jacob short.

So lots and lots of things coming along the team are a busy on new Amazon show will be on a launching soon last one laughing.

Yeah, you know my role is very much running the company and planning hair then.

We've got lots of things that will look in 2025 including internationally so I must have taken stock on kind of the Industries that are very very busy.

I'm very busy all my team but I am very busy.

Shake, what are you? What are you looking at the moment always always on the lookout for mischief? So have you got any stories to get charged and yeah all season is massive for deadline is Oscar nominations as today as recording and baftas next month so lots too lots of 40 remember her head to the media club.com register for our weekly email is what I'm surprised to find out who you are as expected the media club.com that produces mate.

It's a reading audio production with video support from Discovery I will see you next week.

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