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Download MP3 www.bbc.co.ukCovering the Royal Family, Law in Action…BBC sounds music Radio podcasts and welcome to the operation from cancer present this momentous announcement was released at 6 p.m.
And lad news bulletins, but shortly before that reports for emerging of a massive breaking story Moscow reports of a blast and a fire in the building it is a developing story did the BBC strike the right balance in its coverage of both events of the message was repeated on BBC Radio through out the weekend when it was no longer news the BBC royal correspondent and the editor of Radio 4 six oclock news that day to give us an insight into how the Royal story was brought to air also.
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Is over it's presenter Joshua Rosenberg joins need to discuss what happened and reflects on his memories of the programme he started presenting back in 1984.
I wish I able to listen to the law student.
I think I'm a certain amount of the law from it and news of a U-turn by Radio 4 over its decision to cut in touch as running time to check the rni be trustees pays tribute to people power.
This is a really great example of how coming together has had a brilliant outcome first the announcement from The Princess of Wales that she was undergoing cancer treatment was headline news across the world it came after weeks of frenzied online speculation and conspiracy theories about her health it all.
Just minutes after news broke of a horrific attack on a Moscow concert hall in which 139 people died now the BBC's coverage of the royal family always.
Healthy debate in the feedback inbox even more so when another major story is vying for our time here are some of your thoughts on how the BBC fired and covering these two huge store I'm countdown from Tisbury in Wiltshire understand.
The interest is has too much of the BBC audience the content of the message was repeated on BBC Radio through out the weekend when it was no longer news this coming sided with the attack in Russia a rolling news item with constant change Ukraine has dismissed what it called absurd suggestions that it was the attack which left the Venue on fire goes to the BBC who's covering two major breaking stories Kate Middleton's cancer diagnosis and the shooting Moscow at the same time the Prince of Wales reveals that she's been treated for cancer.
My name is Sister Mary and I would like to say how appalled I was that a time when sad.
This would be lost by warfare and starvation the BBC Focus our attention on the fact that the Princess of Wales have modified Mother's Day photograph that surrounded the princess is long convalescence despite the fortunately since Kate has so bravely and humbly reveal tetanus the BBC has acted in a respectful and measured and dignified way and we must be able to trust the BBC to do so well.
Enjoy Now by Robin Edwards who was editing Radio 4 6:00 news that night and by the BBC royal correspondent Jonny dymond Johnny correspondent, what kind of fool morning did you get about this story? I was not to leave the building after I finish presenting the world at One on lunch time then.
I was I got it.
Around 2:30 that there would be a story involving the Princess of Wales I believe the word sad was used as well and I'd like to give feedback on in a Newsroom when you're about to break a big story you were the editor on shift from the story broke, but this was a planned announcement.
So can you let us into a little bit of the the details of you and when so we had a couple of hours notice? I think maybe less than that.
I would be lying if I said there was a bit more tension in the air than usual but the Editors of all the secret together inside room.
I think that this point we had the transcript and someone read through it so we are able to discuss how we to tackle the current from then on this major story is happening and then getting some reports of a shooting at crocus city hall.
Concert is a venue near today.
You are 10 minutes away.
From 6 p.m.
Bulletin where you have this major announcement from The Princess of Wales which I'm sure you and everyone else in news news going to leave the bulletin and suddenly you've got a developing breaking international story what's going through your mind at that point that point was still very very sketchy so it was difficult to assess exactly what was happening with some footage online with people lying on the floor the concert hall from that we can see there was something very significant happening.
It was just difficult to pin down really accurate information on on what was happening.
We did what we was we checked the factors best.
We could and gave them to our audience as quickly as we could once we were satisfied that information is reliable, but it's a dilemma.
I think every editors face.
Do you know where you got to which do you pick which is the one you go first with one of our listeners, Ian got in touch from Dorset with his thoughts feel like the BBC you continue to believe that the entire.
Monarchists despite all the opinion polls showing at least half of a chance that it probably does make sense to you to prioritise a national story that also has a large elements of human interest over one that's unquestionably more important in global terms.
We don't assume anything about our audience.
We know there a big group of people with very different opinions all sorts of topics so we don't seem that everyone's a Monica's but I don't think you need to be a monarchist to be interested in news about the royal family they also have a really major national live and we knew that there was massive public interest in the health and her whereabouts would have been building for quite some weeks.
It was very unusual to get that Direct video statement from a member of the royal family talking about their health the context of course the king himself as being treated for cancer and so they were going to be wider implications for the the role of.
Are they don't with them public duties as reasons? I think it was the right lead for us at 6, but as we are able to pin down more as a about what was happening in Russia the numbers involved official responses and the claims of responsibility that story of he gained more prominence during the evening and buy it was the lead interested in your brother reflections on the coverage of the Princess of Wales over recent weeks with that has been an extraordinary time and you're probably only beginning to draw breath.
It was a story in fact.
It was a series of events including that digitally altered Mother's Day photo and the visit to the farm shop and things were really very small but at the time.
They were whipped up into a frenzy of conspiracy theories on social media in the international media who were also fixating on this and I wonder.
That influence the BBC's reporting of the story at that stage and I find it quite difficult now to make the judgement about what is a story compared to maybe how I did it three or 4 years ago because it is hard to argue when people are literally talking about the story all around you as they are with me.
I wanna come out of Tube Station last Friday night the underground station in London and these people on their phones yakking all about cancer and what a great thing it was all of that looking over here it so it should have propelled the normal rules which I have more ideas that I have four.
What is the real story it's much more difficult making the judgement when what is going on beyond the boundaries of broadcast and print Media online is so vigorous even if it is so mad.
I mean that's so interesting because I almost feel like there are two constituencies of listeners.
There are those who use social.
And they were bombarded with conspiracy theories memes clips of international coverage, may be genuine concern about the Princess and then of course there's solicitors who don't use social I don't know who were largely oblivious to all of this speculation actually it was really well some dark by one of our listeners from Bury St Edmunds who made this observation I was to a BBC News Bulletin last Tuesday where royal correspondent Sean Coughlan addressed photographs of the Princess of Wales shopping at the weekend.
He thought they would quite perhaps and some of the more outlandish the way for the time being at least now as I was listening.
I was falling through x formerly Twitter and the exact opposite was happening the conspiracies were going into overdrive in this scepticism was unanimous someone uses my experience in two different realities like when does social media have a role in Friday's video which appears to have achieved what the paparazzi photos and newspaper stories couldn't how do you make this substantial?
People feel as though there scepticism concern whatever it may be is being fairly represented without repeating lines put out by Legacy Media like the Sun newspaper through my arms the Radio 4 listen to do that with all Radio 4 listeners, anyway.
It's really it's a really really good point and you don't want Radio 4 or radio or BBC News to be this sort of lonely ghetto where we don't die partouze in the filthy froth of news and speculation beyond it is it's it's it's a very good.
I would say one thing I do thinking about some particular constituency of listener when you prepare the news, it's not like I think all I got to make sure explain to rural conservative voter.
What's actually going on here you have the news you say the news that is your very best and fairest understanding of what is the truth and you put it in front of them and you ask people to believe it or not.
Is as ever part of the equation here or the the understanding that should be which is this is an art.
Not a science and that includes the prospect of it wrong.
I wonder will the BBC reflect and perhaps do things differently next time I see there's going to be a next time that social media goes into overdrive over Royal conspiracy theory.
I'm one of the first people to be critical of the BBC's coverage on The Corporation but very happy to to speaker it would probably once or twice over the last couple of weeks, but I thought gosh not sure I have done that but that's a pretty good hit rate and I don't think I don't think the BBC went bonkers with it.
I think it's worth sometimes editors listening to sound rude, but they do listen to us a lot actually and I am grateful but you know you can get quite carry.
Play by the demand for information that is out there and compared to the lack of information that they actually is it said this at the weekends to one of the editor.
I was asking for a story and I said it's so thin what we have at the moment and I don't think this is a stupid.
I think they can hear when we don't have much to say and those pieces.
That's what we said 24 hours ago, but with the sentences rearranged.
I do think radio really does get it right a lot on the royal story defend that pretty strongly.
This is one of the reasons.
I very very happy to feedback as well.
That makes me think all the time about the coverage that we provide and the judgements we make about the coverage that we put on at Jonny dymond BBC royal correspondent and Robin Edwards thank you both so much for coming onto feedback no Radio 4 law in action has been on there for 40 years, but this week's program was.
There was no fanfare.
No official announcement from Radio 4 and the first listeners heard about its cancellation came from presenter Joshua Rosenberg and it's penultimate show feedback quick to express their anger and sadness at the news.
I was really sad to hear the law in action has been cut from Radio 4 on the mum in my early 30s and not a lawyer and Lauren action was a real insight into how the legal system works and it will be sorely missed.
This is Nancy Sheppard from Glasgow I have been enjoying this thing to this for quite a few years that deals with topics that I wouldn't normally come across in my normal working your daily life it just seems to be also following a trail of traditional long running programs that are being axed.
What's changed in the law over the past 40 years, what can we expect in the future?
That's what I'll be asking my distinguished guests and the new generation of young citizens in this farewell edition hello.
This is Jane from Hastings please don't take away.
It's a very valuable giving us insights into law that make a real impact on life.
I found it very useful my name is Andrew and I live in Glasgow for me.
It's a perfect example of the best of the BBC Radio 4 remember.
We had Kier starmer former director of public prosecutions and what happened to him and sadly died so much that all about the circumstances of its end, but I really hope there's an intention within the BBC to replace it with a similar program, but who presented the very first law in Action programme 40 years ago and the last program on Tuesday joins me now.
Remember Milo lecture is telling us that we should listen to Lauren action.
So it was probably one of the only Radio 4 programmes that I and many other law students listen to Back Then I know that it's part of the legal Communities listening for a four decades what kind of response have you had from the legal world about the decision to end program? I wish I hope the neighbour to listen to Lauren law student.
I think I'm very grateful to you.
Just disappointed and the judges are disappointed.
I think the senior judiciary realise the importance of communicating with the public gave them a testing but fair ride.
We gave them more than the two or 3 minutes play would get on the current affairs programme I like to think that questions were slightly better informed than somebody who wasn't a specialist in law who might be interviewing them and they felt that.
Spell communicating with the public and I think there was a loyal and appreciative audience for an action and one or two people have been kind enough to say both in the legal profession and outside the best.
Sorry to see the program go that the recommissioned from year to year 2 year at suddenly wasn't in its normal slot and we asked and after a little while the the bosses told us that he was coming off the air there was to be a podcast and it was to get a slot apparently on a Wednesday afternoon 12 weeks a year but this was going to be a different sort of program and I was not invited to apply to present it so we had a few weeks in advance.
We didn't want to cast a Pall over the last series so we didn't tell the listener straight away, but obviously we had to.
Until people that the last program of the run was going to be the last program ever not quite 40 years 39 and a half years of course.
I didn't do it for that period of time, but it's been going nonstop since 1984 and sadly it has now reached to stop it sounds like you had to employ of investigative journalism to even define the program was going to be ending I wonder where you possibly after all this time giving any reasons as far as I know it's all part of the cuts.
We all know that the BBC has to save money and apartment that produces an action how to make savings and this program was cut we were told to the podcast wasn't making the impact with other podcast we pointed out but it hasn't really been promoted as a podcast although it's interesting how at the young students who were talking about referred to as a podcast they don't seem to understand that you.
They will turn on the radio to set time on the word would come out without you having to choose them but we understand it was part of the cats and we know that other programs have gone and that's the decision of BC and this is not the first program to be cut congratulations to you and everybody involved in this extraordinary and ever and I know that as one door shuts another opens, but I think you should Mark the moment and I am really grateful to have the opportunity to play a part in that moment in your final programme you left it to the lady chief justice Baroness car to patriot you answered program, but how do you feel personally that the program is no more have to say that was completely unexpected.
We persuaded lady car to give her first interview as chief justice of England and Wales to lowering action on the basis that if you didn't talk now well the programme would be off the end.
She would have lost her chance and she very kindly agreed to talk to us.
When she said that she wanted to pay tribute to law in action and she ended up paying some rather charming things about me.
I'm sad that the program is going but I have found that blogging has been a way of communicating recently with people who are interested in the law both lawyers and non lawyers and of course.
I like everybody I shall be launching my own podcast probably in the autumn who are lawyers, but they say how much they enjoyed the program How accessible.
It is illegal nuance and how much they hope that it is replaced the BBC have told us so grateful.
They are to you and your team for all the work that you've done and they say that they're working with the same team to create a new returning stranded by the law which will reach a bigger audience in the schedule, they also say that they're planning and major series on justice later this year and will strive to ensure.
This important territory is consistently covered.
How do you react to that? I'm pleased to hear that the BBC will be covering law I did speak to my producer of year ago and she told me that she just been told that she would be involved in the new podcast but we didn't know anything more about it done that.
I don't know anything about this serious at the BBC is doing later in the year.
I think there is some advantage in a regular magazine programme that can deal with what's topical rather than the documentary programme was that take some time to prepare but I'm delighted that law will still be heard on Radio 4.
I just your house and I'm sure that I speak for many listeners, when I say noise ever please do get in touch to tell us what you think about the One action being consigned to that great archive in the sky or in fact anything to do with BBC audio.
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No, I made the flurry of changes to the Radio 4 schedule, and it's recently a significant one went under the radar from any Close perusal of the refreshed revealed that in touch the long-running weekly program for the blind and partially sighted was being cut by 4 minutes that might not sound like much, but it's more than 20% of its running time.
I'm not news prompted.
Many of you too.
Well get in touch Music Radio podcasts vision rehabilitation is a forgotten under-resourced system lost and I'm any pressures facing local authorities June Davies from Berkhamsted I was shocked to hear that in touches to be reduced to only 15 minutes in the changes to the Radio 4 schedule this program is very informative and interesting to those of us with good vision as well as those without in touch could easily.
30-minutes hello, there are 2 million visually impaired people in the UK and increasing daily.
I'm upset and very angry with him by Eloise Bingham Eloise is 21 she's based in Wigan tell us your situational and what kind of help you need and I'm currently struggling with height of settlers pigment my Watson I was very disappointed to hear this evening of the Radio 4 programme entitled to be reduced to 15 minutes from is it not discriminatory to the disabled to shave off this program? What are the BBC's reasons for doing this the BBC usually try to stand up for the disenfranchised and social work student feedback listeners, won't the only ones the Royal National Institute for the blind of jective strongly toward it called a retrograde step for the BBC in its coverage of disability.
News before the changes of even come into effect on April Radio 4 announced a U-turn in touch is staying at its full-length when I join, I buy the chair of trustees of the R&A Tyler and welcome to feedback, can you just tell me what your initial reaction was to the news that in touch was to be shortened.
How is incredibly sad because I think the B&B is Joshua placation is deserve all aspects of the community and it's a great range of people including visually impaired people and in touch is a well-established way of meeting that some people really depend on having a radio programme like in touched.
Keep them in touch does what it says on the tin so by squeezing 5-minutes the programmed you're obviously going to lose a lot of information for visually impaired people who absolutely depend on Radio 4 programming to keep them in the know I wonder.
If you can explain why it's so important to have a dedicated program in the Radio 4 schedule in the week in which all the station around cyclist that sort of current and in the news is available in one place at one time and people know when to TuneIn also think that it's become the source of an institution if you like and it's the way into understanding sight loss for those people who are fully sighted and where you can salted before the decision was made.
No it came as a complete surprise to us and that's why we got so exercised about it.
There has been a used home.
They control of Radio 4 has decided to go back to the 19-minute program.
How did you find out that news this morning our chief executive Mark stringer got a letter from the controller of radio for setting out the position and it's brilliant news I think.
This is a really great example of how coming together as one voice to raise an issue of concern and then having a calm communication with BBC and the BBC listing has had a brilliant brilliant outcomes, so we're really grateful for that another BBC has made a statement saying that in reversing the decision to cut the length of in touch.
It's important that they listened and reflected the audience and they made the decision following feedback so I wonder what kind of conversations were you having with the BBC encourage them to change their mind well.
I was certainly publicly quite vocal about my disappointment site.
I saw it as a threat to that child to commitment to serve a Brett's across the community Matt stringer who's our chief executive rnib roads to the director-general and I know that that letter got passed to the controller.
CO4 so presumably there was quite a lot of internal discussion at the BBC lots of people are not digitally connected lots of people don't listen to podcast they don't have computers or can't use computers so to retain that radio commitment is incredibly important and a tiler at charity trustees at the rni be thank you so much.
Well.
That's almost all for this week and just to say that if you were hoping to hear from the BBC's head of audiences Alice in winter have no fear.
I haven't been stood up.
I'll be talking to her about audience research for a radio for decision-making about schedule changes next week until then goodbye, and thank you for giving us your feedback.
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