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BBC sounds music Radio podcasts and welcome to feed hello feedback this week has a distinctly Eastern flavour the BBC's international editor Jeremy Bowen it seems to talk about the challenges of accuracy and import reality on the Frontline of the Israel Hamas that was a mistake and it's a shame I made that mistake and do not be open about it.

Also, what's the food programme right to devote an episode 2 food under Siege presenter Sheila Dillon is here to respond to your comments.

I was really disappointed this week to hear that the programme was going to be about the conflict in Gaza I've just listen to bloodlines on BBC sounds remarkable podcast to the camps of northern, Syria

Find a missing child the sniper fire the chaos that little boy Salman disappears the first drill denies.

It was responsible blaming Palestinian Islamic Jihad Jordan Egypt the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia Condemned what they say was an Israeli attack in Ukraine when the 7th of October atrocities took place in Israel he went straight there and he's been reported in the region ever since he is back in London or short break at the moment and Jeremy I'm really grateful that you find time to come into the feedback studio in or inbox as you can imagine about the coverage and I suspect that you have to this is Bob and Georgina from Norfolk to surely cannot be alone in Lowton

Reporting has become you report on the Israel and us war quite clearly from the point of Sympathy for the guys are residents who don't forget voted hummus in Japan and was scared to disguise hostility towards the idea Stuart Anderson I'm a regular listening to Radio 4 this thing throughout each day.

I've been struck by biased news presenters are in favour of Israel the hammer tax for a riffic.

What is the United Nations secretary-general guitarist said he did not happen in a vacuum.

I've been looking at the before October 7th and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians has been actually appalling over 75 years know where have I heard of BBC presenter dwell on Israel's crimes same paediatric consultant and running and Israel Israel

So my decree that some of the reporting on the BBC the platform for a maths try to remain impartial and this is gonna criticism from both sides even more important.

I believe the BBC is tried to prevent the relegation of this conflict into a numbers game by that I mean 11000 vs1400 over like a particular the analysis by Jeremy Bowen I think paints and measured for you even though at times the picture can appear quite bleak.

How do you what's your LodeStar how do you make sure that you are being parcel in your coverage for me impartiality is about being truthful and so that's my LodeStar I try and get to what's really happening and try to explain why it's happening conflict festival has over many many Decker it's had the has the capacity to make people angry all over the world.

I think that people are interested in having their own hopes.

Confirmed I think they want to have their victim of knowledge.

I think they want to have their side supported.

I think I'm sure they would quite like it if we were cheerleaders the problem is that when not that means that sometimes when people hear what I would say very strong as the truth the truth can hurt but you know nothing in my opinion beats impartial on the spot eyewitness reporting and the only we can do that as they getting their Israel does not let us in we have some really excellent Palestinian colleagues who doing their best and many Palestinian colleagues have actually been killed trying to do their job.

I would have gone in I still would have they open the doors but up to know these ladies will not and there's a reason for that and that's because they want to control the media Battlefield which in Modern Warfare is really important to explain to us.

Then if you can't get there, what are you using? What sort of you using do you use BBC verify for example? How do you get your news from different ways one thing as really cheap washing in the last Goswell 10-years 15-years not more than that is the proliferation of smartphones videos and the the way that things get bloated.

So easily if you look at an incident that happens you sent you see dozens of people with their phones out.

They're filming it and quite a good proportion of that will put that online so it might wear short of material so BBC verified as a great job in checking out that material check out that it didn't come last week.

I mean if I have gone through something then it's very helpful as I wouldn't just be wind just stick in a little thing out the people who have been talking quite a lot of the UN and various end-users the work by the International Committee of the Red Cross that kind of thing then.

Statements sometimes you might talk to people but this is very often.

It's messages that come on WhatsApp groups, but they coming from us a good sources.

You have people on the ground the idea from cells are have several extremely active WhatsApp groups were they pumper statements and videos and so we look at that as well and tried to verify Communications in may be difficult with cars and because of the power problems in the way that is really times of actually blacked out what's going on from there.

So you don't be trying all kinds of different ways, but not being that means.

I always get it right when there's a lot of criticism that the BBC came came in for about the hospital bombing on October 17th.

I'll actually the hospital been flashing and it happened near well.

That was a mistake and it's a shame I made that mistake and do not been open about it.

I'll tell you what happened because I was trying to work.

From the video and it was loads of video flying around just what we could see and I'm familiar with the building and paste on the video that was coming and statements that were being made by people who said they witnessed it and but most of all some particular pictures that showed a sort of a square on fire and I thought until assessing aerial footage taken at night because that was all on fire and I thought that must be the Remains the you were careful not to say that you thought that it was an Israeli missile strike and butter BBC did report that it may well have been an Israeli strike.

Do you regret by of lot better than BBC if I hadn't have two calls because we came in for a lot of criticism and it would still goes on and I think generally speaking 19.

Santa what we've done has been as good as or better than anybody else in terms of accuracy and believe you me we really do try if we could get in it would be much better because I would have done is going to actually hospital and take a look for myself but because Israel has decided that foreign journalists should not be going into Gaza except under their supervision on brief highly control visits that means that we know sometimes mistakes happen.

It's one of the things that contributes to it.

Surely more has been in touch couple of times this week on Radio 4 in the morning.

I have had relatives of the Israeli hostages.

Talk about their language and distress what I haven't heard this Palestinians talking about their ongoing grief poems of pulverised families killed in the end by the continuing Israeli strikes this horrible situation demonstrates a lack of humanity and distance from both sides.

There are two sides and some people have killed all the words ever there are many more Palestinians killed at the BBC doesn't seem to cover this very well by failing to give the family is the feelings that is actually I think that yes, it is much easier to say interview the families of the hostages.

They have a non-stop visual in the middle of television.

Just turn up my colleague Fergal Keane and you need to live my another's have done packages out of Jerusalem typically using that material because we were conscious that because of issues of access we couldn't get to people also since the ceasefire started Palestinian prisoners have being released mostly mostly teenage boys and some women as well, then we have been able to get into parts of the West bank and

East Jerusalem by the Israeli sub and families from talking to the media in East Jerusalem about the release of people but what they do do of course as soon as I walked in the door.

They will everyone stop the phone sometimes it so we got pictures of Jeremy you have covered a lot of the horror on the Israeli side you wanting to Boots just in the days after the Italian you can't do this without taking the personal tell can you tell you have to be able to try and deal with things I've had my own mental health issues over which I think to do with having excessive miles on the clock and I'm seeing my first dead body in El Salvador in 1989 in the Wall are we tried never see the dead body before I've seen some countless countless dead bodies, but I just get hard.

an emotional connection it is

Difficult not to have one with people who are going through hell.

You know you have human empathy important part of being a decent report having a decent Thomas is being empathetic.

You have to idea of what people are going through and then you have to give your audience some sense of what it's like to be in the shoes of that person get me there an international.

Thank you very much for coming in Play safe, when you get back out there.

Thank you very much pleasure of the year that I mentioned last week for the interview that you think should be the word the winner it can be any interview on any radio programme podcast from anywhere on the BBC it could be a big political interview funny or emotional one or a stop in your tracks confessional moment, please send feedback by the 10th of December with just a few reasons.

Why it was such a stand out for you.

What Andrew Ganley has done the importance of BBC independence from government you've not still better than listen to Michelle's Sainz interview with government minister Grant fostering bordering on personal attack mixture of doggie persistence and patience Socratic questions reveals the game was up for Mr shops.

Thanks so much to the today team and Michelle for holding our leaders to account if you don't know exactly when it was don't worry too much.

Just tell us what you do remember.

I will do our best to find it will based on those nomination the feedback production team and I will draw up a long list and then a panel of feedback listeners drawn from our regular correspondence will make the final decision.

Bus an email to feedback at bbc.co.uk 45 on social media.

It's at BBC R4 feedback and of course you can listen to feedback anytime on BBC signs, so please do subscribe to us and each weekly programme willy in your podcast feed bloodlines is a new seven podcast from the BBC Asian Network reporter pronunta nature travels to the detention camps of north Syria with thousands of women and children who lived under Islamic state are still being held she was there to search for Salomon the young grandson of a British man who answers the sniper fire strikes the chaos that little boy filming disappears.

Are there is desperate to find him helpless on the other side of the world?

I just want to be normal grandparent to love him cater for him and is still think this is Dr David Nicholl I've just listen to bloodlines on BBC sounds podcast they raise is all kinds of Child Protection issues for the children UK is chosen to abandon in Syria where is other countries have taken back from the Guantanamo in the desert from Gateshead I just wanted to say interesting.

I found the series that come down to Georgia is Sterling currently bloodlines.

I've listened to up to the end of episode 6 and especially poignant listening to pronounce interview the young girl and the boy who is currently in a sort of detention centre.

She started the series by saying goodbye to her own boys and you could see here in her voice just how upset she was and puzzled as to what can be done with his poor children.

Who are left in limbo by all of the countries that they come from without any hope and without any idea of when or if the audience going to come to an end the so many children many of them orphans, who have been held in these detention camps of people that were rounded up from the caliphate.

Can you tell me just a little bit about why you chose to search for Salman I've been covering as and jihadist groups for the BBC many many years I'm back in 2019 and this was during the last days of the war against as I was contacted by Ash cancel mum's grandfather and it was through community group died.

And he lost contact with his grandson and really desperate to get any help to find him in the chaos of War there was such a little help available and that's when I started looking into the case of soma I realised actually that this was something that was relatively unreported.

I think we've all heard of the Brits any other foreigners that travelled to live on the ISS from all around the world, but it was the ISS was a black hole when it came to the nation and suddenly at the end of the caliphate when they were defeated you had all these women and children falling out and that's when I realised actually just how many children had either been taken to Iraq and Syria to live under as and just how many have been born just podcast does give us as listeners an opportunity to see through your eyes some of the Horrors that.

The young children went through but there's a really powerful moment when you come across a graveyard for the children from a whole new c230 that one that one The Old small the children and nothing can really prepare you for that.

I have to say I think what struck me when I walked graveyard and I wasn't expecting to see what I when I saw.

It's just the fact that there were these small Mounds of Earth they were unmarked graves and it was really funny.

Please children never existed.

It's not as if these children died from a rare form of Cancer or hit by cars and die from cold from Hunger and it didn't need to happen put on when I was listening to the podcast.

I heard you talking about the race again.

Time to save these children at a time to prevent them from being radicalised from dying from facing absolutely zero prospects in the future is Race Against Time are you calling for these children to be returned to their families outside Syria extent you see yourself as a campaign in journalist.

I really don't see myself as a campaigning journalist at all.

I think when I looked at the story and I think spoke to so many people about it.

Not just Ngo security experts there really seem to be no logical argument for keeping these children there.

It really feels as if they're forgotten.

They are cheese to travel there.

They were born there and for me it felt like why isn't anyone talking about this.

It's very rarely goes reported on that there was a line.

Used that really struck me in the end it comes down to three things the lies.

They were told the lies.

They're telling me and the lies.

They're telling themselves.

How do you know what I can you know when you're talking to these people in the camps are in dire situations.

I close you're getting to the truth, but it really comes down to and it's really interesting that you've picked up that night.

So I think it's so true.

I needed to ask some really challenging questions.

I should've interject and pick up these answers when of course they don't add up put on your journey was sparked by the story of of soul man because his grandfather Ash who lives in Britain was really looking for him and really wanted to know answers.

How are that family now?

Family is like Ash don't speak outs their son was a foreign fighter.

He died fighting for as they know that there is no sympathy for people.

I don't think they expected pronouncing Asia thank you so much and did all the episodes of bloodlines are available now on BBC signs the programme this week was all about Gaza and focused on the food challenges people there are currently facing and how they are coping as well as looking at the broader culinary culture of the area, but not surprisingly as with much of the coverage from the region listeners were divided in this program.

We want to find out how a population of 2.2 million people in Gaza nearly half of them under 18 are surviving day by day.

What has the conflict done to the food supply in one of the most densely populated places on earth.

How are people feeding themselves and their families how resilient?

What's the population given the profound on certain Tuesday face my name is Joanna and I live in Cornwall I change into the food programme on Sunday looking forward to some entertainment on the food subject as I do every week.

I was really disappointed this week to hear that the programme was going to be about the conflict in Gaza not that I don't think this is a serious and important and tragic subject.

It's just that every single news program is saturated with the story at the moment.

It's very depressing and sad and it's really important that people know about it, but the food programme is an entertainment programme primarily and at times like this actually people do need some of these times that we all rely on to entertain us to do exactly that and not to jump on the bandwagon of whatever the important news stories of the day are maybe at some point in the future.

Appropriate to do a program on how people had survived and feed themselves during this time the presenter of the food programme this would be a parcel choice.

Just tell me why I decided to go for it programme is a history of doing difficult controversial programs and it's not that long ago since my colleagues Dan saladino programming Ukraine are not long after the Russian invasion and you know that that tradition goes way back now Syria long time ago.

I was on the west bank doing a program about to use with israelis and Palestinians you know it's the food programme as one of our little tags used to say it was from politics to pleasure and we try to to look at food to illuminate the world sounds you know bit of a cliche but I think it does and that's what the problem is always been about.

Nightcore she must have known that some people would say how can you do a food programme from Gaza when people there are struggling to feed themselves and their families is that why you chose to tackle that head on in the program absolutely because who you are is a a small area densely populated and renew from the un world food programme than 80% of the population was already getting food aid in need of food aid so the question we asked ourselves.

How they feeling themselves now and there's a war going on there being do you know that so let's see what's happening.

So you know we did some research and we talked to the world food programme.

I want to share with you a comment from one of our listers Renee thank you for your brilliant food programme today and Gaza bring us a humanizing the of God's people to be respected and admired my heart goes out to them even more if that was possible.

Stop word that rather uses humanizing foods are love of food are need for food.

It is so universal.

Do you think that it does help break down barriers? Yes when people sit around a table and share a meal you in a breaking bread to get an old concept and it does make you see people as human is really that people and struggling and many in name on both sides all doing good.

Thanks.

No we often have listeners health feedback that BBC news coverage possibly understand because of time constraints lacks new wants.

You know it's two black and white the conflict is painted as being between two distinct sides israelis and Palestinians wherever course there is a lot more context.

I was very interested.

Actually have room to expose their so you talked to a group called I think it's Indiana of Galilee is it happened.

This is one of the Miracles that our relations with the Palestinian farmers have not affected by the War trust and the collaboration between us and the Palestinian farmers is still in like it was before the world and like it will be after the world.

Will you conscious that you have a little bit of space and licence to tell a more nuanced story food.

Yes, I mean that in a way that point of the food programme you no telling no on story through food and I was discussing this with my son what you're not in the early research and he said somewhere in you know when the whole of Israel where Arabs and Jews are israelis and Palestinians or working together on a project.

And so you know I looked and saw that there was this amazing project and Gala you know it's not in God but it's based sharing.

It's a very successful business.

Just seems like a perfect place.

I have to admit.

I've only been together to cover the conflict as a journalist and I don't really remember the food there.

I wasn't aware of what a food centre.

It was I'm sure I can't be alone in 6 years ago when I met we talk to you on the program and I bought her book and it was a revelation one of the simplest things in the book is this chopped salad which is I think you'll find all over Palestine and Israel it is the most wonderful thing it's it's includes chop lemons and I eat that and think wow you know what what a live.

From that wonderful parts of of the world it's that's what made me first think about the food of Palestine Sheila Dillon thank you and you can hear that program on Gaza and indeed weekly episodes of The Food programme on BBC sounds well, that's all from feedback for this week from me and all the time.

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