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Welcome to media podcast I'm at digging on the road to see the winners and losers of the British podcast Awards I'm going to go to the bar and guests I might Jackson people as well.

We'll see you in a bit.

Everyone has a lovely time waiting for the winners to come through find out information about their feelings about the media space in a positive life.

I'm only Adlington I'm an audio producer was the producer on this show creative director of overcome media and indeed based in Cardiff Wales which made This podcast podcast on this a positive life.

I was the assistant producer and you know me Emma because I've worked on the podcast with you before we won't recognise your face.

I don't want to tell me about the podcast then yeah, it was a series which looked at the last 40 years of the HIV epidemic in the UK it started by telling the story of the life.

Terrence Higgins starting from his childhood in Wales he was one of the first British people to die of an aids-related illness in 1982, so yeah, we we we really need to get to tell his life story and then actually meet a very wide range of different people of all kind of different ages who live with HIV in the UK who shared their lives and yeah, it was a very special show to get to work on the issue is still such an important or we have come so far in the last 40 years, but there is still HIV stigma and I think it was really important that we made This podcast in 2023 reflected on what's happened because you know there was still people facing stigma for having a child eaten, even though if you are undetectable cannot pass it on you because you and I don't think enough people are still aware of that message.

So I think this podcast was really important to make what do you think it is?

A podcast like him because Pacific leaders being able to tell a story like that.

I think what's a podcast does is a break intimate medium it really enables listeners to get to the kind of hopefully get the sole of the people that contributing and in This podcast.

What are the and Emma did so brilliantly as producing assistant producer and Smith or fantastic presenter is together.

They were able to speak to and get the experiences of people accuse diversity of people who have been affected than the last 40 years have I buy HIV and really get this incredible array of story because these are stories about people who are here.

Jesus is alive live this is a lot of we want to read the totality of experience and what these experiences were and you know I think the podcast men that people could listen to this country to this these interviews and I really get into these.

Beautiful, where do you see podcast going in the next year for a lot of independent podcast and so you know I've worked on big podcasts like this with big organisations that work with the BBC but it's real struggle for people who are just scrambled egg around and like fun them I'd like to think that would be more money for independent broadcasters that happened.

I don't know but it'd be great because you know there was a million and one stories out there and it's been wonderful to be able to tell those stories podcast Media based in South Wales I really proudly based South Wales making stories from Tamworth to the whole world and I think they were here in London a beautiful venue and it's sometimes it is to think they're gonna podcast landscapes exist in big sensors like London Manchester Glasgow that are brilliant podcast makers aware of the Independent companies or individuals of all.

UK and all over the world and I think one of the things that I'd like to much more the industry over the people who have their the funds and in-kind Resources to kind of pay for podcast look beyond the big metropolitan, London Manchester and looked at such an amazing opportunity to commission content that really conveys the put out of human experience from across the whole diversity of the UK and we doing well congratulations guys.

Enjoy the rest of the evening.

I'll let you get on with life.

Can you control for end of the week commission the school which is just one would be absolutely thrilled about and put under round with a glass of champagne.

It looks very very Swiss going to go and the Radio 4 trophy shelf for and podcast I mean how important are they on and how's that shifted for Radio 4 in in recent years I have stayed with the Stewart it's kind of become some extent.

We get a rollover cos it's 1:00 service one.

This is the second time I've picked this all up for John and he's picked up pretty much every award going I think probably just picked this up more than 20 times now for the school and we were delighted that because it's a real Skewen some ways of being a kind of writing.

Efforts really break into the boxing world and to show the radio become really flex and moved with the times and can follow the way people and I can see me brilliant audience is a very different offering to what most people might consider a podcast that seems quite unusual that you would sort of pain your hopes on something so I suppose you know satirical take on the world and I think that's perfect because it can you find an audience purely on the red thinking about linear radio listeners.

Generally just kind of that.

Audio content kind of shaping the future of radio for and how are you going to get more of those sort of the younger listeners in as well the truth is listening as it's a brilliant way to recognise it.

There is at audience out there who won intelligent speech won't comedy drama all the things we do but actually because they are system for the 21st century and they used to being able to consume things on their own terms in their own space doing what they will do podcasting to bring way for them to do that and great joy for me.

Is that we got amazing flagmakers and podcast is all around the country have been able to dry sack Challenger do all ready for dust which is this make sense as well and make people laugh.

Give them all things ready for is always start but in a way that allows people to consume us on their terms and I think what it's done.

It's given radio for a place that might have.

Space not been able to get those people find them where they are so it's perfect because it allows us to still be Radio 4 and preserve what we do in the nearest a whole new generation into speech thing.

We will love you Gary Lineker Claus well.

I think the BBC's come to you might be only say this a rather good much clearer position.

You know it will make certainly my life and most presents like a lot easier because as much more clarity about what we can a concert by it means so much in my life now.

I just want to say and how amazing it is.

That was nothing on this showed us this day a year ago when we were fledgling starting out thinking 103 doing with just left some good reputable job to do something that is completely knackered crazy crazy Brand New Year holding the winning trophy of the Daily Podcast I can't believe it made you do that then if you had it if you had a secure job without you know where the broadcaster and then you got off the bus opportunity.

What made you think actually yes? This is the right move for me great opportunities come along where you think I'm going to start something new with a blank sheet of paper that hasn't really been done in a can of different sort of way and you just think if you're not take an opportunity like that.

What are you going to jumper? And it just seemed risky full of jeopardy possibility of failure high but

Ourselves we got a fantastic team of people behind us and they are amazing and you just got to every now and then in life.

Just you over the edge and you think you know what I'm going to jump it is a spectacular team best.

I've ever worked with and as soon as well.

I mean yeah, it was a tremendous risk, and it was a it was a leaving the door, but how many chances do you get to change the way that news is being confused and you know that might sound a bit grand but it's something that we started this year.

I was so shocked by the sort of people that's what I used to be younger people but we listen to your show and you know what working with these two Legends everyday is also complete thrill and I think the whole team feel that way every day and it's just it's just it's thrilling towards the recognition of all that the team of particular is really.

Established and what's that word they use Legacy media and kept on telling you morning way or no be staying up and nobody is watching TV and showbiz tune into bulletins and you either think on my god.

I'm going to take that right person because nobody is cheating in anymore or else you think when I Still Believe in what we doing.

I Still Believe in the news that will covering maybe we have to go towards the audience and start telling it in a different way finding different audiences and working out the way that your ears or eyes that isn't the same old way of doing things and so actually it just made us all get up.

You don't get off our backs sides and go I still believe there's a genuine interest and a genuine audience for the news that were covering we just have to find the people and we have you know and it's a testament honestly to the listeners out there who to tell us who actually come and

Tell us that they're getting them using it in a new way that they find enjoyable and that they keep coming back for so yeah, I mean we just we really happy this medium exist and that we can play it and it's no doubt you made a splash so where do you take it from here? Where do you take the newsagents? What's the the next logical step for it? Would you just go going on the South Pacific I think it's really healthy to have a sense of fear of failure.

We get to the end of a podcast recording what we're going to do tomorrow and I think that's what keeps you keen are there better ways of telling the story are there better ways of giving analysis and insight into what is going on with the three of us.

I think I'm hungry to do that so I'm quite often will finish recording.

That was shared.

I don't think we're gonna point because I don't answer that one and I'll remember I mean this year actually arguably since 2014 which has been separated in one of the quiet and years and that sort of 10 years, but there's been a huge appetite for what we've been doing is going to be a bit bigger and competitions going to be more face isn't it? You've already there's a few more podcast being announced.

I think it's good to have competition.

I think it's stupid to think that you hold a position that can't be overtaken and I think it's going to make us improve what we do you know for is it 4 billion people are going to the polls next year Around the World in elections.

That's quite a lot of coverage for us together too thin to print on the mirror.

In your review on your you know in your car, it says the object is closer than you think I'm just keep that in mind that there are objects you want to get closer to where we're doing.

We will rise to the challenge.

Hopefully and fear of failure, but also kind of confident that we've got something to say in a different way of doing it as well.

Enjoy the rest of your evening and massive congratulations is he your first British podcast Awards so you're really lucky and then you get to a girl all around Europe with a different podcast divisions.

What's the UK market like pizza house podcast Awards certificates, so so bigger market definitely so it's more mature market competition competition.

Here in the UK lot of shows but kind of Europe you might not know subscription out.

It's different Mark if you have created in Denmark vs.

Creator here.

Is it really grabbing a large and growing the market so we see that The Nolans is now and also the biggest part of the market description and we continue to see the same pattern so definitely a growing business and a lot of the non-english speaking markets on today.

There is no because sometimes we could get the UK's a really big advertising market and that's not necessarily the same in every country is it?

No, I think if you're going too small and language markets like to see if I will lose me today also shopping in smaller language markets and that goes for podcasting as well.

You mean the same as in UK I don't know 35 40% off of people listening to podcast the simply not enough scale still to make a viable business and advertising markets what people are listening to are there any categories or topics that just do well in places or less while in others, what's the secret of European content?

Weather in local in approaching each market, so we tailored approach to eat in a bit of market, but if you don't like Shane Ross like true Crime everywhere and a picture and then very much to talk almost does not like something that's very specific to markets that unique obviously there are executed locally with a local flavor, but it's actually quite interesting just to verify Way Market Harborough be different, but if you look very very similar to what people they prefer to to listen to buy big personalities in the UK and EU markets people who are jumping ship from commercial broadcasters or public broadcasters at the podcast in its suddenly created a market in all the talent the maybe hasn't existed before.

The natural step for for some great as they move from Public Service to to the commercials and moving around for us in terms of Talent so so we're excited about it then don't say that that's not received was an opportunity to really build Talent that we can then there were together with stage.

I know that you have shows then go on to do more shows with you which is probably not something people have seen here in the UK we don't have the same limitations and then go The Creator send for competition reasons and being Commercials but also in the public stations that goes for a lot of the European markets actually, so, what are you looking at here in the UK what you been surprised by or what are you thinking about you at the British podcast Awards tonight?

Plumbing website shows that are nominated that's that's that's really great right, but it's still early days for us in the UK so it's about exploring and learning and figure out.

What about approaches.

We got a lot of data a lot of learning and building up PlayBook and then we'll see when when the right moment is for I was just have a great night.

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More winners coming towards me this is amazing what you drinking water make an amazing.

I'm in the Wrexham and the percentage of 28 Days Later which is the podcast of just one best new podcast 2020 new is one you I don't know it's best just one new podcast SE26 later is a 28 part series about the menstrual cycle, but actually it's a massive expiration of like where women are at now in the world and it looks at medical research cultural stigma and social stigma and there's a big historical lens on how we see the female body and the womb and yeah, I mean, where do we not go?

What happened on also tell me about we also just won the silver for where are you really from which is so yeah.

We have a really like multi-discipline team covering from entertainment and how are you finding the podcast landscape at the moment if you notice any trends and shifts in it in recent years that you're kind of having to adapt to going so we're winning you know where I really grateful for that but.

No way to make this and we got to make it and it's incredible and it's been recognised which is also an amazing day.

I was trying to figure out how to have a baby on saying they have a baby but my gut I asked you know nothing about my own body reproductive system and all the hormones and it was to say we have to make to tell everybody what's actually going on in the body and loads and loads of people's lies.

We get weekly emails still like a year or so down the line for people to this is change my life.

I went to my doctor write a referral.

I've actually had PCOS diagnose or I've been on a fertility journey for ages.

I never understood the hormones people were talking to me about now I do.

Do you like it has a massive impact on health and social care and talk to them about it and yeah, I mean we're so proud of this series and Ellie Sanders the amazing series producer George and peaceful music of course.

It's possible by Rebecca I was just amazing team and we had like incredible like and as well who you know she's being and all sorts of amazing things so proud of it.

I think this kind of subject matter you know the relationship.

Just seems to be a great match.

We couldn't quite work as well with any other kind of Media do you think it's what do you think is about forecast in that allows that I guess?

Best feels really authentic and the person with you talking to you it all feels like you're with somebody personal on you can listen wherever you are at any point at any time and you can share them really easily much more so and you can listen again and you can see my bookmark things and I said no because the boundary now.

It's really between radio and podcast so this is a radio to say but there's something about I think you can find something quite specific to you in the world.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm leaving present and this is one and we are the dad still standing podcast podcast for dads that lost babies trying to guide them through the grief.

A message of hope that they can get through it and you know just want to help him and we are the winners of the best podcast of the year for parenting which is incredible because you know for a lot of Dad's out.

There are parents anymore and so to offer help and support it is an incredible feeling and yeah, it is just Wonderful Tonight in the first instance independently or did you go to production company know we're literally had a conversation both play for a football team for bereaved.

Dad's we literally had a conversation at football training night and said do you want to do the answer is yes, we bought two Mikes off Amazon we recorded into our laptops and iPads respectively during lockdown.

You know ourselves we produce the ourselves and then play we have a little bit of exposure by the BBC and we got basically sign to factory Studios so they know they all our production Forest incredible for us to go from.

Dad on a field in the middle of nowhere two and a half years later having the best parenting podcast of the Year only because we said would you be interested in the podcast yes, and I think that's what that's what about podcasts as a format is that if you have any shifts you have an interesting story to tell all you can help somebody and I'll podcast helps people you can have an explosion to have the best parenting podcast of the Year helping Dad who lost children is the most amazing feeling in the world volume said when we started with you know we had two caveats and that was that wasn't going to be depressing that if someone listened to it in the dark place.

It was going to take them further into that dark place and also we wanted it to be fair.

I mean when I get to be relatable never in my wildest Dreams did I am busy that we would win a British podcast award letter get nominated.

So you know I'm absolutely just pulled over with it.

Walking to the stage and I'm not sure that's how it's supposed to be at these types of things but like as to those two guys and it's really difficult for men to talk about mental health and mental health when it's in a real bad state which is a lot of the feelings that many men feel after losing a child for us to find a way to make that light able to find a way that made of a dad's feel less lonely less suicidal to feel like they weren't alone is an incredible feeling what we felt was such a niche area parenting and Anisa of mental health has been recognised in this way when we set the podcast I'm at looking at me because when we start the podcast Up we were going to think we could help one other guy because there was no one for either of us when I lost my child and when.

There was no one frog who sounded like us who were saying the same things that we were that just didn't exist that support doesn't exist for men and said that I asked for us to say someone in Essex is someone in Northampton is listening and then suddenly someone in california's listening and now someone in Sydney's listening and make something that is so personal.

I so isolating like grief and to hit people right across the globe was an emotional thing for both of us and then say what you just best parenting podcasts of 2023 and two guys going we don't know what we doing but we just trying to help somebody is the best feeling in the world with just two dads from Essex latest we sit in front of a mic.

We have you know the gloves are off.

We tell it as it is we try not to be too depressing about it.

We try to make it funny.

We're just blow my mind.

And I think there's something about how you tell a story in this medium which is we could have got other dad's on to tell a very sad story and ask for is a really sad, but we don't want to do that what we wanted to do was to create a podcast that was a tool kit.

It was a resource that every stage of bereavement that you will go through after losing a child.

That's planning a whether it's going back to work whether it's how you grieve differently to your wife our podcast is a tool kit in how you deal with that as a dad and I've been asked different too many podcasts which is why I think we've been recognised tonight and I'm so pleased you clearly delighted.

I'm going to let you go and enjoy the rest of your pleasure meeting you both massive congratulations.

I'm staying focused.

You've got me on on the level so congratulations and what does it mean to win this award in you know what is a very competitive landscape when it comes to use Focus keeps saying I thought of these agents for them incredibly competitive but we had an incredible team who like turn up everyday and stuff.

We know how good this podcast is a nice information about the little bit and sausages made.

I mean how much work does it go into making a day today podcast isn't it? So how much work goes into producing your show and how many people are involved how much time does it? I'm tired.

I'm very tired.

We have a can't remember the number.

Given the output exactly the end of the episode of The Daily minutes of credits as about 15 seconds basically and 1% episode usually sometimes and it's not just chat archive it's tape.

It's listening to things over and over again to make sure that accurately by the way if not just giving you facts, but like telling you a story and it just takes so much time and so much effort and it's very nice to know that people are listening and that you're a jury about his people like it.

That's all it's nice.

We keep being told it's a growth market right and you can see how crowded it is now everyone's and I really think that space for everyone because people are interested and ways of doing news as like you know your thoughts of Janice give you their opinion on things that us doing mini documentaries.

Seals on the director of podcasts at The Economist and we just one network or publisher of the Year 2023 given the we have been a magazine since 1843 doing the news since then and we have been doing podcasts for actually longer the most but makes a publisher this award ceremony.

Let's face.

It is absolutely massive and I think a lot of people in podcasting with think you know if you are some 10 years ago with my like.

There's no way but what other things you should have noticed in the industry changed in shifting.

What's changed is the the number for cost so the quality there's obviously there's lots more money to be made and never used to be.

What that means for us is I mean we lucky because we're with with backed by all bosses just to keep producing great journalism and doing as much of an audio as we possibly can we are sipping our toes next month into audio subscriptions for the first time and that's because The Economist has been a subscription business all along and said make sense for us to to try and do that for for for audio to and I think you know we're out front but they'll be there within within a few is specially for news publishers like us who do charge for the prince side of what we do everyone be will want to want to do the same eventually subscriptions going to come from your system from audience.

We going to get new people in because you know the consumer are being pulled every Witch Way for subscriptions.

You know is that what you're being told will that's what counts this about 10 days ago now and and we normally obviously we done our homework and we already had an inkling that there are people out there.

Who love what we do and maybe can't afford a full-on subscription to the magazine very keen to to to to join and contribute to our journalism in in audio.

So I think it's definitely a lot of economies curious people out there who we can we can pull in business model is the kind of advertising where you try and sell mattresses ok, you have to pretend that you're just being paid to say it and one of the things about The Economist

Ourselves on our independence and we think that we can do independent journalism better if our subscribers audience are paying us to do our jobs rather than taking money from advert to read out those kind of adverts and all the feedback.

We've had from our listeners that they value their kind of independence and the expertise that we bring to our podcast I think it's a little bit different about what we do is that the classic podcast format is a couple of people talking to each other and pretending to be expert on what they're doing.

I think we're humble enough to be able to go to the true experts.

We have 300 or journalist of The Economist to go to real experts in their Fields who cover important subject day in day out and ask them the answers to be no it was ourselves and then the last thing I say is that in a we try and cover the whole world things that are important, but maybe below the radar.

The Intelligence our Daily Podcast has been covering what's going on in nagorno-karabakh recently.

I don't know too many other podcast network to who do that and actually turns out because the podcast audience as a whole is so huge.

There is Anisha people who wants a really really know what's going on in the world and understand it and those two are listening somewhere.

Thanks and also just delighted to witness will the big thing for us in the last year as we like while a lot of competitors.

I guess specially in at the big American podcast networks come back from doing the kind of expensive long form as stuff.

We've actually double down on that in the in the in the last year and we did too big for series that were very successful.

The prince about cheating paying China's leader and another one about Russia and the and the war in Ukraine called next year in Moscow and those did really well and actually not only with you sleep with our audience with like foreign policy specialist this kind of niche nerdy audience that that we we managed to pull in but also with podcast listeners, who just loves a great story.

That's what we were always trying to hit that so the sweet spot between subject experts and people who just want to listen so that sounds sounds the thing I like most about not the most about one of the things that maybe tell you something about what we're trying to do at The Economist are serious about shooting the prince has been translated into Mandy by podcast listeners in China and distributed around the country even though if you were caught listening that caused by the Chinese Communist Party you get into serious trouble trouble and probably sign in.

So, we're really proud of the kind of journalism, which I do and we're going to do more of it in the years to come and this award is real so the validation of that, so thank you.

Thanks very much.

Hi James how are you doing nice to meet you? I'm good thank you.

You've done one the Hall of Fame the pod Hall of Fame award British podcast Award for but this must feel pretty great.

Ok here's the light on microphone around the kitchen table.

Just balanced and excited still very much independent light is also we completely only had it and everything so to be kind of one of those from the kind of that with the foundations of podcasting far is the Spirit of it like it's nice to be recognised when you're in a room and such an amazing Talent and big hitters and things like that.

It's nice to feel so it's nice to be honoured.

Testament to yours your report with one another house, SW15 and I think it's fair to say that you became and you are in the best way occult.

You've got the best way, but you became really really massive and I think I do wonder now.

Do you think that there scope for a future my dad wrote a porno and I don't mean you again.

I just mean another another person to get into that level in the way that you guys did the way that the media landscape changes become way more competitive now as well.

Do you think that will happen if somebody else? I really hope so I mean it's great that there's a dance like this that kind of championing like there's a real breakfast shows here.

There's like you know the big the global shows and then there's kind of McGrath shows and things like that, so there's definitely opportunities to still champion those shows that might not normally get the big promotion and things like that.

We definitely benefited.

I think at the time from the moment.

We did it.

I think there's definitely space for you know.

I just think the right idea cut through and and if you've got a good idea and a great like team behind it also depends what you define the success like you know that everything is going to end up like that.

You'll find your audience and you can make like it's much easier these days to make a career from podcasting even if you find them all kind of smaller dedicated audience so change but I think there still an opportunity for things to cut through for sure and I hope I hope there continues to be platforms for that and in this new landscape.

That has changed for everybody would in December be finished, but we are developing can't other ideas for it, so we still look like we just want ijust the right time for the podcast The End that we feel like this stuff to be mine from.

Content from the books from the Idea we talking about the podcast will writing at the moment.

Yeah, it's been such a great platform for each of us to kind of Take That next step into our careers and I think whatever we do.

We want to do something that we cannot own creatively cos we had such a special 10 was so special in that respect like we felt like that like so whatever we do next.

I think we'd like to continue that but it just has to be the right idea but best of luck with the future.

I have no doubt that whatever it is a massive congratulations fire quietly but you're not retiring at home.

I'm off to the home David Williams who produced and wrote the forecast for I should know this because we didn't do any of yous review until now with party Gates

Us you've done for you acting prime minister for Paul and things but calling Peston have been done but hard to get with a chance to go to take listeners absolutely inside the heart of Downing Street right at the heart of the biggest scandals of our life x probably pull a broken that scandal through for the whole of the year before and it was a chance to offer through the podcast medium a completely different so that story and you suddenly were taken in the key moments with parties were occurring and illegal events are occurring you could find out what's happening in that room at the time like never before has a massive.

Isn't it still ongoing the process must be very tricky and complicated because it's something that you're you know you're very consciously recording and putting together and putting out there.

How did you find putting the series together so quite difficult actually because it was a control issue for me and my beliefs and evenly because we are broken.

I like the stories around party gate and trusted and have a trust of our sources not to reveal their identities and it's

Doing that on broadcast news where you just got a couple of minutes to the party controls.

It's very different thing in podcast for when people want to know what happened behind the scenes and they want more detail they wanted to be more casual.

Maybe blase about the kind of discussion you having and you have to do that without then jeopardising your source and dropping the minute so the whole process you know David wrote it brilliantly but for Nathan and I it it was kind of constantly checking to make sure he went overstepping the mark the award itself as well.

I mean, what does it mean if you say so if you haven't been able to cut through in podcast so what does it mean everything? It's you know it was a heck of a lot of work.

It was like 9 months of work for the biggest busiest journalist in the UK and it was finding time for us to communicate and build a script together and hours and hours of editing and archiving everything I need for that to come together and release and be a big hit in some of the charts with another one in Apple news will second in the chart overall for a story that the start of it was we will start my project at the end of party.

It felt like no one wants to hear the word ever again so for us to bring out something which offered a new entry into a story of our area and to tell what has become pretty much the definitive document of the area code in the right position report as the example of documentary podcast thing so for us to produce that and then tonight win an award which we genuinely at the point of seeing the competition on station having that reinforcement enormous names of podcast that everybody knows and we've been given the spotlight award.

It's it doesn't get better than that for us.

So yeah achievement and amazing team.

I could list several names for you, but it's quite a few news podcast tonight as well.

Where do you sort of see the future of broadcasting within you do you think that people are going to step away more from you know watching then using the traditional wages in the evening on Millennium radio and go more to the sort of more in-depth stories and maybe daily news podcast.

Days gone by they might have either opted for a newspaper or a News Bulletin on television, where is now they might do a bit of everything.

I might have their out.

They might have a newspaper that have a News Bulletin they might have a podcast and I don't think we need to prescriptive about news necessary moving in One Direction or one medium.

I think people are quite happy to actually have complementary Media all you know being consumed all the same time and for me.

I think the key to partygate was being able to drill down into store in the way that you wouldn't be able to hear about that story on any other medium so you're not going to get that level of detail on TV news.

You're not going to get that insight and hear the voice of sources in a newspaper in a podcast mode you can be so much wine to make you can be so much more revealing so I think all of these types of Media actually very complementary.

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My name is Chantelle Josie I am the host of a guardian podcast that comes out every get your popcorn and you can tell that covid-19 wards after that definitely what I live and breathe and eat and sleep like every single day.

I probably light to three podcast and I'm like I'm invested like I pay for my wondering subscription at this industry is so so important to me and I give a share and it's my life and so winner know what this means so much to me because it's an industry that I can.

How is it in December invested in the biggest thing and it's just a wonderful Media format and I love you so much and I'm so happy for you and it's a poster of like these two girls laughing in yoghurt and then another little girl like in real life is sat next to the Post laughing and that's what listening to a podcast of people that like don't know me but I having a conversation or they are investigating something and I like being really talking to me and it's very intimate as an art form and also about disseminate information like sometimes.

It's not like sitting and watching something can be a bit too like arduous you want something to be with you on the go you want to stay informed on the go entertainment company walking home by myself down as well when you're going along as Park walk to the government has to do with what can I remove me? You can't walk and watch Netflix like if you're in a restaurant you want to sit.

Something so it's like it's the perfect companion.

I podcast companionship and that's what makes them so engaging isodynamic and like when you find something you love you so much content to speak to you because you're like wow.

This is a friend more than it is like a thing to be entertained by David listener and someone who clearly and house podcast.

What do you what do you want to see from the industry? If you want is there things that you'd like to see change audio drama bag.

I am obsessed with audio dramas wondering if they make a good audio drama.

Such a great way to basically like just consume like a very engaging story and I think podcasting needs to really like push the audiobook girl because I was a judge for the for the

Book Awards and I did the audiobook category and it was good, but I'm like when I listen to audio dramas and like these are people who care about the cross of people who care about the way that they are translating information to an audience so much about the sounds of the design and I'm like wow.

I want the effort that goes into creating audible experiences to seep into everything else that we do ask that is about listening and so I want to come with you.

I want to see more that I want to know the Dolby Atmos have I started to collaborate with some companies to create those 3D surround sound experiences and I want to see more that more technology and I want to be more diverse as well.

I thought it was not enough black people like black women here when I was telling stories the so I want to see more that I think that would be amazing and I want to see like jungle younger people getting into as well like another Jersey Girl is a chat show but I really want them to.

Do more investigative stuff I wondering about the galleries on tiktok the young girlies.

They know how to talk compelling story they know how to investigate and I think of Abbeygate the guy that found the guy on Tinder and stop I just the way that turned into huge news that you managed we encourage a lot of these people on this platform sticky gen Z to start thinking about how they tell these stories and an audio format bang bang in the drama.

Would you go for an audio drama over watching EastEnders podcast on from the open my eyes and go to sleep timer so when you're falling asleep is so lovely speaking with you.

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We go, where is the podcast? Thanks, only picked and all this work on those interviews at me.

I've got back home after all the winners over podcast rex.com podcast rdx.com support from peers.

It's a rethink audio production next week for a Regular Show

I never like the analogy of enjoyed being this goes down and never liked it because I will come home and I will see all my people my people live here.

I moved when I love the world when I came home.

My people were still here.

My family is here.

So how do you talk about a city like it's disappeared.

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