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Shame you lots chunks of a long-running section at the present in private.

I have you been tracking the runners and riders of the Telegraph and well.

It's who's going to require it very much people to front of bed by the Barclays to try and take back control of the Telegraph with money from the United Arab Emirates going to go to investors and the way you say the guys who screwed up the business their business is so badly that the bank actually took this off their hands back in to run the place get that from the bank that already knows them off your next month so it's going to run a lot of discussion that in mind at all go 1 groups like The Spectator murdocks potentially always Rupert's of a Quinta

Into his folder on that one.

Yeah very keen to get both Telegraph titles, but that could potentially go into trouble with them because they got not only both male titles which amongst the only papers in the country, which still sell an awful.

Lot m as well as on a normal situation would give them an enormous share in the market, which sort of thing that you know the commission as they were used to use to get quite concerned about in the newspaper and also may be funded by The Middle East as well.

Yes, we also present a few years and ordered an enquiry into not the letters and sells taking over the standard internal when they pulled in extra extra shareholders from Saudi Arabia so you know that all question of money coming in control of British press assets could could get a world of regulatory stuff on the horizon.

Maybe going for a safer offer if there is one.

It's probably the better decision is probably would be and also I mean on newspapers.

Even necessarily that sort of thing you want the money into is the journalist and critics got Brian how are you? I'm good I noticed you become a member of after I have I think the 13-year old tv.

Keep me lose his mind that like one day.

I could watchsomuch.tv that it would be allowed in what a treat, but I'm not sure do you down at all ok? When there is a lottery because you are picking the people but it's not easy to just get a membership is not like just do a direct debit and getting your card in the post.

I mean in the end.

They do after Monday please give me some money so yeah, I mean I think it's because that is what I'm trying to wind and their membership.

They're trying to make sure it's much more reflective because of course they all.

Headlines 49 the way the batter with beef head you like it over the course of the last 2 years the thing is trying to make sure that the industry that is the flagship is absolutely representing the industry that it actually is running need a wee in central London but there's nothing really that Clarkson's farm and Scott you spoke to somebody Amazon bosses think of the TV festival looks like after months of speculation and Jeremy Clarkson shows Clarkson's farm, and it is renewed by Amazon Prime and maybe before we find out for me Scott what happens and Adam can we remember what the controversy was about clocks time at lose get to get when you say nothing about the television work at all this for Christmas last year in which you said you want to see hated Meghan Markle on a cellular level.

Nicola Sturgeon a Rose West and that he specifically wanted to see her paraded through the streets naked and pelted with excrement are the things they didn't realise there was a sexual using a bedroom while because he almost immediately back down as did the sun and said this is this is this is completely unacceptable but he Remains of the Day which was not something.

You haven't sympathetically says trans rights and all sorts of things for them as now which is it is a strange having a podcast convert this week as well indeed.

Play the Private Eye podcast he talks.

We talk about him minute Amazon bosses review on this one variety of the reported that Amazon has going to cut the long-standing ties with it had with Jeremy Clarkson not just for Clarkson's Farm but also with the Grand Tour which of course is now be irregular.

So they haven't really had an update about what we're going to do with course season 3 had already gone into production have been filmed and seemed to run its course so when I can have pressed on site at the end of TV festival I got back that they work on the shops and disappointed about his actions and there was a real me a call about that, but then they were busy at the same time quite defensive over the actual program itself and created this to a situation where they were trying to distance Clarkson's Farm from Clarks

Highlights the agricultural issues facing the country that other characters within at the heart of the Lights of you is and I had a sore today today.

Look is called Clarkson's Farm but you can't you can't separate 42.

So they didn't education about a future.

They were fake so this news form deadline today by Jake answer to say that actually it looks as if they might be having a renewal after doesn't really come as much of a surprise.

I think it was a factor in Amazon to be very cryptic about how to access all of those are considering that this was an awful lot of money on them, but it's clear to see that when it comes to the UK slate, Clarkson's Farm is it after to talk to the probably thinking ok? He is a big lie there to see and he said some down my awful things that maybe we can't really lose them because we haven't really got as many hits to replace him, but it is also way cheaper than the Grand Tour so probably find a billion dollars.

The cross that like really means for James May has gone and done his own cooking so variation and that feels like a very busy to show there's also been a travel programme that they've also done that has nothing to do with cars with James so I think a lot of it is very much their style of a spin-off see whether it works.

If it is a set of metric for is not really public then.

They will commission some more I think the water with Amazon branching.

I think a bit further be more competitively into making big franchises of things because if you have a big fight schedule sell products related to it ties up very well within the Amazon site think these days like that was a main thing.

I got throughout the entire of your Edinburgh TV festival is focusing much more on about creating and yes TV show with a rich for Amazon to be something in 2023 only just realised that might be a bit of a liability because this is what you get when you were very keen.

A lot of money out in tonight's podcast said there's another one that's been added to the podcast list and his political currency the new show featuring George Osborne and landed on podcast at yesterday that Thursday this is from the makers of the newsagents person phonica led by the former BBC News producer.

Do you know sophos and Scott production but not tied to its calipers phonica thing because of the fact that it comes in the same people who made the newsagents of course it's been a real big hits for glo.

I think also denotes office being behind it.

He was a creative newscast which is still coming from the biggest podcast names to BBC has there's actually podcast to manage to have a really intelligent questions about Pop Culture that I think people did not really expect so I think just the names behind it to I mean the fact that you've got a chance of that and the former shadow chancellor George Osborne

Tied to it too.

I think give the reason to believe we're within the medial surface of this will be a big hit I guess the challenges.

I think at the moment is not really anything to do with Percy Parker is a saturation of the style of podcast cos there's been now the rest of politics with voice Stuart Campbell there's a course of history which is simple not busy little but similar there's the one with Steph McGovern in the last week, so it's becoming quite crowded market very quickly.

I think there is an appeal to be start a podcast having two people with anime be at home you talking about something that big topic in different ways and I think also quite nice at a time when lot social media can just have people who agree with you on that you have polite intellectual discussion from opposing views to show that actually they might be more similarities than differences between us, but it's just down to the fact about whether anyone's really got enough time to list.

Podcast actually, I'm quite funny that I think you have something there is something interesting about the two of them.

There is evidently a chemistry between the two of them which is gone off a lot of TV programme the trailer that they video for carrying boxes along the street with just sounded very very badly getting all these jobs bring input into another job.

So it's really it's good that you doing lots of things for your bank balance as well.

I'm doing it.

This one looks like an absolute.

It looks like some people have looked at Rory Stewart Mouse that works really well who else have you got you could do that one and you just get the feeling that you know this is the beginning of a long sleep if there was still around on general galtieri agree to differ but it doesn't work for me.

I never wanted to Lister House Camberwell he was on the phone about what they shouldn't try that number 10 threatening people.

I don't want to pop in my guess is a bit like publishing is no one ever knows what the next big thing is going to be predicted that the Campbell and Stuart Hall's can be predicted but the Girl on the train was going to be used for two years after that everybody came out very similar cover girl in it was Harry Potter and all those can be published.

Tennis courts in the and yeah, we had the kind of quirky friends discussing things that don't really matter stuff for the podcast the name of the back of my dad wrote a porno something huge fan of people people chasing the last thing I mean there's only one way or the other different time BBC local radio before lot of changes to BBC local radio there legalising afternoon programs at a national chosen at some other times.

They remain local Canterbury 6 a.m.

To 1 or 14, but one of the presenters Sophie little who's leaving the BBC from BBC radio Norfolk this to tell listeners on Monday but I will see how I see it.

I feel the cats are ablest ageist and a place economic barriers to some people to and I felt incredibly nervous to say this thinking about the minibuses.

And how this goes against the training of ever had in my 15 years that I've been here.

She is local radio have a strong role to play in communities and it's also incredibly difficult to know when something has been cut off because the people who have been affected might not speak out because they might delete the money by themselves.

They might have access to the internet to express their frustrations about something that they seem to be seen to be essential no longer being available as much as frequently used to I think it's also the fat, but I mean at the same time that you have to understand the financial pressures of the BBC's undergoing I mean it's having to have a shortfall in regards to about 285 million because of the licence fee freeze until 2024 and they've clearly looked at the entire budget and it's gone we can no longer support the amount of services that we commonly do even.

Courts in a substantial commercial income coming into and the choice of made has been merged the BBC World News and news channels in 217 stand-alone service and to make these got back radio and to hope that they can make some sort of digital thing out of it radio is a great service in reaches about 15% of of licence be pursued TuneIn moving some of the money to digital content that people can access to the website of podcasts or or whatever isn't bad for way of trying to broaden how they wish it was local news and information always going to be a pilloried for whatever decision.

Are you listening because I'm not talking about that are largely over 80 a lot of my housebound a lot of them a disabled.

Lot of them rely on that as you know companionship and

All things that BBC as a as a national broadcaster should be provided content at big part of the day like the boys have and it is typically by because they cut through announce months ago and they seem to be sorted dribbling out over different radio networks at different times in the in the traditional BBC way as they got rid of from his Radio 4 programme none of them a chance to say goodbye properly on a moment like this is the little and there was a kid by head little while ago from another radio station where there was a a pensioner who found India 200 years old and he's got a regular guest on the programme programme absolutely in tears because you just said you know this is this is my life and this is what I look forward to every day and then and they've been in a lightbulb and Customs House 100th birthday and local Communities that yes the BBC has got to get money, but why are they cutting it in the areas? Which are all the things that only the BBC

Commercial is going to step in and do like local radio like classical music all of those things that actually make the BBC unique surely you should be looking if you're competing with your Netflix and Amazon Prime streaming services.

You don't want to be doing the same stuff as them you need to be focusing on if you're going to justify the licence fee you want to be saying this is what we offer but no one else off is it reminds me a lot of when all of the newspapers went online and in the 1990s and 2000s and they all instead of going all we've got rid of a random things that we specialise in let's let's go really concentrate on that is exactly the same contact me competing for the same exactly the same time.

No take what you're good at and make that your specialism like Disney plus have with you now say we do Marvel Star Wars we do these kind of things the BBC should be going be some things that because it does this is a public service broadcaster.

This is what we done really really well for generations and that's where we going to concentrate on money.

Communicate have a get their contact a local content shifts and if they don't make some changes to try identify.

That's which then they'll be even further changes need to be more gradual in the case of this particular case making a cliff Edge for elderly housebound listeners that suddenly they just mind what they got used to he's not there anymore.

I'm a lot of people probably don't need broadband to access the internet go online go online and it will be of course.

It is sad when you lose any of any of the letters you like which is the thing off and come back to radio that connection people have a radio investment on the other side.

This is in commission.

Have you seen what's happening with this is network BBC Network radio the widening the number of people that do the mystery of shows I mean I was hoping that you know a lot about more about this then.

Tell me you're very much stay at the audio person, but I mean they are spending on commission Radio 2 3 and 4 and 5 and With the Radio 5 roll been the BBC's diversity and inclusion strategy and I think it's important to say I like that like the details about Side London yes as well, so I guess it's trying to ensure that is very much sitting with the BBC Match of these days.

I'm having as much as much more out of London that was before there is anything else.

That's my daughter is the controller of 5 lives and also head of BBC and soul and she was saying that for fibrocystic commissioner work on the station Slater BBC sounds podcast and the role also brought in the pipeline for Death disabled and on neurodiverse Talent for the role based in Timperley radio three more diverse content ready to be in London or Salford

What people kitchen really really interesting things about the first one is that it? They all these jobs are being attached to different BBC radio stations.

I think all of them certainly some of them.

Please can be working on the site that those stations and I can for BBC this is what we were talking about is that gradual move over to realise it would people listen to radio different way other people listen to radio on demand through BBC sounds and and the whole thing it's moving that again and again as everything is move out of London London the other four are all in Salford so what you are essentially doing is creating not saying things like around different areas of the country, but actually creating something that is literally MediaCity you just created kind of another enormous in a different part of the country is 10 years down the line exactly the same conversation happened has happened before the creation of them before.

Take me to Salford of a radio presenter someone else's clearing a desk is someone this time from Paris is Richard Dawkins the president of audio ipower.

He's leaving and see this to me just before because it only broke within the last couple of hours and it says the wording of the way that they've said just leaving it's quoted due to different ideas around the next Fazer transformation of Bauer Media audio business and that's why I've on Bower and Richard Dawkins have decided to go their separate ways than it does actually saying it normally when someone leaves even if they've left and it's all gone to shit you normally have a really happy up does.

What is exactly what I wanted guys? I really wanted to leave right now with no warning and no notice but with this is to actually emphasises specifically consciously uncoupled.

It's almost differences rock break-up will do some special guitar.

What is their brand so get to do that? How is our doing compared to let say capital with all the royals what happened with them in the past in the four years he's been there actually pretty good for growing at a flowers launch of Greatest Hits radio acquired lots of radio stations along the way and this weekend lot of people were saying not here include amounts from global they used to be x that did all the big stuff from the shiny things.

Where is Barrow taken with stolen bit of a March so you could you put the money looks like it's a privately-held business now based in Germany but

Quite good job, so there must have been quite the split.

Maybe we'll hear some some gossip later on so what I find fascinating is how in commercial radio.

There is a lot of money until I've been running around like a capital poaching a lot Talent so very quickly and I've got bad well with Ken Bruce and making but I remember like only just over a decade ago commercial radio was kind of in the doldrums and white flecks around when he was still come for the big the big shift as being reduction regulation which means you can run these things like traditional businesses, so that's very boring things which has a big effect is far less people working in radio and it was 10 years ago and it comes and far fewer buildings that she said huge amount of money shutting down buildings all over the country so for Global and our new day financial health that could be able to reduce the costs basically.

It's like invest in in programming.

A lot of radio stations in Ireland the markets as well, so I can see what happens next or what Yvonne Bauer son of the founder have a falling out of a podcast of the investigative series we will talk about that during the break after which will be back on must destroy in order to create we are no Jet2 coming.

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What's the forecast for New launches and she sounds of just want to show all about public relations when it hits the fan looks back at the week's biggest PR disasters with two seasoned professionals David yelland and Simon Lewis with both of them and in this chat we discussed how their former employees have changed a David was editor of The Sun and Simon round comes at number 10 for Gordon Brown but I started off by asking Simon David Live Lounge other for a long time.

We went Davies you divide at the sun.

I was the appointed communications secretary at Buckingham Palace so we both live through David said he said to Liz O2 holes.

I've been in communications ultimate just it's clear that people festival other interested in Crisis just by definition of the second day.

They just like to know what's going.

The bonnet and so we started talking about it.

You would get in touch over the years and it crystallised around this.

I did I get the big inside a bit was rather make your retrospective which we could have done.

We thought making a current affairs programmes.

That's the kind of big shift in thinking as we talk to you through the Westminster bubble is LEGO chamber and it's bit everyone expose Media types lobby journalists all kind of playing the same game and having fun doing it rather than thinking about the public is that the case was that me being mean? Well? I just wrote down there chamber while so it will work.

That echo chamber has never been more powerful particularly on the right so the echo chamber between the Conservative Party at the moment and you know please do beautiful.

Fleet Street and includes GB news and talk TV now particularly TV news on and they listen to each other they employ you know we are coming out of the government straightened straightened to the studio presenters with that nearly know these people are you know? What's happened during my since I left newspapers.

Is that the media the media class has overtaken the political class and become the same thing so we literally had a German number 10 which you know didn't work very well and the reason the media class overtook the political class is there better.

Smart a little bit of people and that's very sad for a democracy and some point that has to change so that's the sort of macro issue on the left if you if you if you left, the jury's out really weird.

They haven't been in power for so long.

There are disturbing signs actually that Keir starmer's team some of the younger members of it anyway.

I'll spend a long time trying to make friends with my old paper the sun and the Daily Mail and they're looking for they're looking for the nod my view Grace family.

Is that they do not need that God and that is dangerous and to get it is dangerous for someone that The Sun just after Tony Blair came in partly to perhaps reflect the changing nature of politics point isn't Keir starmer just doing what Tony Blair did he flew out to her and musical conference before before his election yeah, but the sun sold nearly 4 million copies then.

And it was incredibly car for the intellectual and there was no social media is a very very different world the sun is not important for the TV now and that is just the truth.

It's a it's a lot making newspaper which has been written down with zero value on the balance.

Sheet of new limited and is still very important as your problems.

It's best not to to kick it took it around but it but you know you don't have dinner.

That's the difference the sun as a as a print publication has had his own deadline when it expires obviously the online version does well.

That's a different kind of business issues that are digitally the sun is successful.

It is not it's it's an entertainment product which is doing very well, but isn't it doesn't have political.

In the digital world, there's no one there's no gen Z person that looks that looks some online all the daily Mail Daily Mail online the older generation looking at the iPads are influenced.

So ugly as these papers succeed in the digital world.

They lose their political influence is a very very odd thing.

I remember seeing Mario cuomo New York came to lunch when I was on your post and he said that he knew when he'd lost the given tauriel race in New York when Rupert backed.

I think it was Pataky the other side.

He said in you can use old think it's half a million copies and was lost making it wasn't anywhere near as big as that x

Rupert's call Mandy was dead because everybody else will think he was dead and that is still true of of he doesn't get it wrong, but it doesn't influence of both the single person in the country is going to change that based on these paper backing.

It's not about the fact.

Is it from day one they will be collected in these papers j&a, and that will affect them because the BBC will pick up those clattering stories because some of them will be true and that's the problem is the weather just to build a very quickly what I was obviously just effect with the last year Gordon Brown or the Labour government of that era, and the problem is if you get a sheer weight of negative completely kind of overriding.

It's very very what's the word enervating and it's always the climate agreement is not even the fact is taking place.

It's the fact that every day you wake up and you're seeing stuff that you are there isn't Ride or it's just been written for a particular perspective.

I think gets into the mayor of the bone of people who were on the receiving end of it and that's why I think it's David said why actually that because that climate they can create is very very difficult to deal with a look at the news today and Paul Marshall GB news a bit for your brother's old paper the daily telegraph dating a bit of a multimedia right-wing Empire I mean that's going to be inspired by what's happening in American and Rupert success around around Fox News

Do you think he would be a like the owner of the Telegraph what is the process being run which is interesting in itself and it's been run by Goldman Sachs o w w very about that is having been on the other side you if you want a process you have to have a timeline you have to have a decision making process.

I think this race is far from run.

I think it's connected to work.

Just been talk if you have got a lot of money and you want to exert influence.

You're probably feeling that you're more likely to get a bigger bang for your buck going into a media group which has a significant social media kind of presents than by or picking up a newspaper.

I know they're obviously towbar.

Still has a traditional paper but I think most people say they done pretty well in online terms are a couple of wonderful prizes including spectator which might be attractive someone who wants to sort of the involved and intellectuals to the side of right wing politics, but I think the Telegraph racism.

Example where the bank has ultimately have to work out two things festival who's got the money and s a witch of the biggest maybe all of them a kind of fit and proper people just because it's important some proper person to run a media group.

That's always on the Minds of the politicians across.

This is this is this is a horse race and one of the authors has gone public and said he's in the race.

That's all.

I think there's a real risk that the Telegraph and GB news together could become a Sideshow and I'm on the losing side chair as well in the in the great time.

I'm not absolutely certain that market exists and Fox News beginners profitable television used television entity in the world, but that's because there was no press is the us and there was no right wing station in the whole of the US and it took the market if you look at the numbers of the new sometimes on the day-to-day basis, they're not that high.

The US right I don't think that exists I think I think you know Paul Marshall might convince himself that market existing in the UK but I'm not sure it doesn't will find out if you think about that we talked about big figures companies Media who would be a good clients to work for today could benefit from from Great PR skills on Chromecast family joke of work for the Queen and I work the prime minister that just leave the Pope which is a family joke.

I I've always been fascinated world of Sport I love I love sport.

I love the politics and sport another Dynamics Spider-Man suppose if I have had the opportunity to help in the colour communications the real one of the great Football Club 7 support Arsenal

Just I think that's the fascinating world, but on the other hand I guess be careful what you wish for because you get involved the something you're to Passion about it probably had a great combination.

I think the world of Sport which were going to come back to we did a piece the day about the big and background in a podcast about the Boom back for the rugby.

It's very it's very combustible wall the borders sport and when sport and politics Collide can be very tricky David who died with Greta thunberg is a person I've mentioned.

I think that if I look at my children to water my younger.

I think you know climate change is very important that Greta thunberg and that generation frame their argument in the next 10 years and particular because they are close to losing the argument and that's very sad, so I think I think that's

Is the BBC of our time and it's very important that the Next Generation get their argument right at the moment, you know they're sitting in front of ambulances on the M1 and losing lots of lots of friends and what's a disaster something that's probably be answered our question.

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Mediapad got a back with me the incident about David yelland.

What he had to say there.

Sorry down on the sun.

Obviously has his own relationship with it was here.

I think that the process more k actually does I think the pressure sores like claim in 1992 because we've been very very sweet out backing people who is going to win already, so we would surprise me enormously if he backs Rishi Sunak at the next election.

I don't know that we're going to get them to the hole hearted endorsements for the incredibly.

I don't think it would make an enormous difference now to anyone I mean digitally it's really think the Mail website at the politics on that is very very very deep within.

You have to take very very often at all.

The paper is still really going for that different audiences that it is that audience who do I think I can have an interesting to watch them do a reverse because there is no way that the man was going back anyone other than the Tories and upcoming election but very very down at the moment.

I kind of the last last last people holding a candle for the principal of Boris Johnson so it's going to be awkward negotiation for them to contact well.

I know it's a rubbish but but better but they kicked out but you should still vote for them anyway to hold your nose and throat light to the game pretty much.

UK British editors another there's always been a kind of the transatlantic trade between them between those outlets yeah, because I'm actually need a tabloid funsters to to be back at the sun is one of the Dallas newspapers in the business the Daily Star is Rawdon and all the fun front pages inAzuma kind of it on Netflix through the son every day, but I just think what is paper wants walls many many years ago eat when you liked it or not a very much is now.

I didn't find it very very entertaining BBC hiring SEO editors to work on to work on the website and if you saw a male plus and News UK press Gazette event this week at showing their recent learnings did.

Anything from them? I'm in the may also said that seem quite well with Mail Plus because it's a subscription subscription option you get essentially a digital replica of what the paper looks like and yes and and but they say they've got 160000 subscriptions and 90000 digital but if you subscribe to mail print edition you also get a PDF and then as if you want to be like here, so I mean I mean I am and I have a day which I think people may think that's what people do I quite like having a paper edition in my hand, but then I don't really like mobile versions on my mobile because I don't really absorption using the same way.

I quite like the fact that has a beginning and an end so I quite I can see the appeal of digital replicas because it feels as if you're having a halfway house between having a paper that you might not always be able to get all coming really.

But also not having the entire internet to be dealing with an endless array of news.

You're still getting a bit of curation so I can see why these digital products tend to do quite well if your website have to close down 7 pop-ups stop stop the things on digital barely anything to you again, so I did not realise that people orange this night because I had to remove the papers every day but for the sake of my recycling bin.

I subscribe to the years ago to digital versions of I wish I had in the morning and I realise that something in last couple years.

That's what I thought was the digital version that have been turned into something called mailplus right which apparently comes with all these other bells and whistles and podcast.

Settees and I can look at pictures of Jo Anne Hegerty modelling the latest fashions and here Sarah vine.

Should I should I watch they want to do that but I do wonder how many people in the same position as me but they thought they were just driving to slightly more more high-tech version of the paper seems to be a very modern thing.

Isn't it? Just have any Brand and plus on to the end had plastic that's one of the selling things.

I think it's really sad Italy facts for dinner so we can come to my house of the people don't buy newspapers for us at all.

They may occasionally Look store in the front page about that.

We may have a cold as they are getting it for the crossword and I think that.

What's really been very very good at knowing that he doesn't know what their readers £1 giving it to them and that that I think will be behind the success of that as much as it is done different newspaper.

The answer is puzzles.

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You have to guess the story from the add button with your name if you know the answer so Scott you off a lot and we'll say here we go right question one wanted new home for elderly pet Oscar can be needy and often up late at night Scott Scott it is ITV on ITV X becoming a new home of the Oscars and they are quite a few years now.

I mean it is the thing as that.

I mean when they put it on put it on Sky Arts and Sky News rather than just on Sky cinema to watch on Freeview is you can watch it on free to wear so there's not much difference.

I guess guess in terms of people being able to watch the Awards apart from that being on a different channel.

I guess maybe it might be more the case of ITV will make a bit more of a song and dance about it.

I don't think it's really done anything imprint on because that's the thing with a lot of the Sky Atlantic stuff.

You know the HBO stuff.

They showed 6NU accident at 3 in the morning.

I'm simultaneously with the American the next night night.

Have you seen with clips by then?

Videographer 100% like a real the case that you turn up and someone my favourite choice is just seeing like BBC Entertainment reporter on Good Morning Britain entertainment reporter yelling at a random star really far away morning after the Oscars live because my Oscars categories that is for me the best about it.

Well done to the met gala organiser must have multiple faces.

It's too cryptic to do with who's hosting just been moved to a different job going yes, you are just about right.

I'll give you a key point for that.

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At the phantoms seem to go for hourly updates.

I mean you only have to go into the search bar on Instagram to go and see why are some stars our body our so I think clearly there this going right.

How can we home I can see about way.

It's racing my browsers probably giving designer quite publicity to the magazine to the types of themselves.

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Is there anybody in the world that you can completely Focus your time on the road from me so news report on performance earlier this week, I saw at the university of Salford Freshers Week people responded like the people that you was even live when they were.

These people at the media quiz and yeah, that's :-( x these days and you can still find things out of my queen, but I'm now on Instagram on I think I have to be my queen Adam Lambert radio money on their son has got round to the straps.

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