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You're not going to midterms right now.

I'm busy writing a novel so that's taking of all of my spare none were speaking politics.

Obviously the big thing.

It's about to hit headlines in America this week is the January 6th committee which was on Thursday night listening to this was a day ago or a couple of days ago.

Are you going to be tuning in and it should be really interesting.

I know the committee a lot of work behind the scenes.

Quite a lot of evidence even if someone's going to report in the papers much more evidence indicating not just that the right was that be handled at the time but also suggesting that it was organised with conspiratorial links at the highest level I think it should be a fascinating TV drama and also a very concerning Testament to wear America is I'd like these things are no longer things we need to worry about but actually the direction of American politics in the past year and a bit has not moved in the direction of making Trump's influence less in fact that people are very certain about with the next election is going to be so it's it's good to start having these conversations very honestly about what happened.

I mean it's going to be quite the media spectacle isn't that they got a TV producer working on it the committee and very keen to basically created primetime TV show to make sure America is this.

Around it and compared to previous committee hearings and so forth where you had kind of weird mashup of equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats and Republicans we're just trying to distract and change the subject and kind of throw accusations back of the accusers in this committee.

It's a bipartisan committee, but the to Republicans on the committee or not supporters of the ride which is a good place to start so they've been really thought about how the to do storytelling around it.

So I think it should be really interesting to see how they roll it out because I think they are seeing that says no chance to let the American public really see clearly what happened to me is gold one as managing director for as Osman it's already looking like a line up.

I think they're getting a roster of really contemporary voices that are very much in the cupboard at the moment.

So there's Brian Cox Who

No as their the dirty the industry's darling drama succession he is plays the Rupert Murdoch of that drug absolutely absolutely leave the patriarch in succession family and I think everybody is anybody in the TV industry has that as their favourite show right now.

What's a corner from Hotstepper which is incredible teen drama.

That's on Netflix at the moment will breakout hit he's going to appear and then what would I be beading most watched and loved entertainment of last year which was rose ayling-ellis, who was the winner of Strictly Come Dancing last year will be able to talk about her experiences in the Industry at first deaf contestant on Strictly is a champion of diversity accessibility within the industry is already looking like a Rica lineup.

I might be wrong.

I think they've announced the actual McTaggart yet, but everyone can look out for I think that's still the one that the keeping the powder dry on yet, so the better still on about who that's going to be because it's always the the real blue chip.

And normally they make TV sensitive to do a TV for matters on Big Brother in the past and strictly.

What are they doing this year of amounts that yet daytime show on the BBC daytime has been upgraded to early peak, so that's going to be there version of the Edinburgh opener, but she's always been there lots of fun.

I'm not sure if they've announced his going to be doing it on stage that usually is that it's I think it's gonna be a lot of fun to see what exact require something fixed in their house the French villas in their yachts in in San Tropez you put on the Edinburgh TV festival committee.

Is it hard to get executive get involved as I just love showing off last year when everything was still remote when we were living at weird World Were things like conferences with done on zoom as it was a little bit different back then, but I think that was so great for letting your hair down.

So I think that is one of those things that people get to see each other without having.

Like it's bumping into each other in the reception of broadcasting house or you know the Leeds office at Channel 4 and so everyone is there to actually reconnect with the spirit and joy of what it means to be a TV programme maker so I think that most people again for a bit of a laugh because I don't take themselves too seriously and that face but obviously it is the opening of the festival usually in a bit like that and then be on that comes into the serious news of announcing new programs and and pulling out new briefs.

So I think there are a lot of detective was clamouring to get a seat on on a panel and if it means I have to make a bit of a fool.

I'm sure that most emoji game for a laugh it will be discussed at the festival this year is the government's media machinations and this week culture minister Julia Lopez address changes at the British Broadcasting at the communications and digital committee.

What were the top takeaways from this week.

She was trying to assure people that the fix is not necessarily year.

The licence fee for the BBC is not essentially doomed whilst being honest about that, then he enjoys the culture secretary seems to have it in for that particular funding model she prayed a couple of things she pays the BBC for its Ukraine coverage and coverage of the Jubilee those of us who were slightly more cynical mind might saying she's going out to areas of coverage where it happens to agree with the importance of the topic for the BBC's covering.

I was particularly struck by her comment the the BBC should not be trying to be all things to all people because I do think she does try to be all things to all people but I think that kind of is probably not a bad idea actually given that dinner.

They are under the current licence model so this suggestion that they might scare allow the private sector to do much of what they do now seems interesting to me John whittingdale on the show and he Lopez's comments about the privatisation.

And it isn't a culture wall, but just the way that channel 4 with structured is a future impediment to it being a successful business was your response to the government comments as and indeed producer ask you to this you should go check that out already.

So good on you that I think John is actually quite nuanced and thinking sometimes and and as an industry of your all quite concerned because of the way he was speaking felt like it was signalling moving directions to actually results to where we are right now.

It is really frustrating because I think there is always a value to have a legitimate debate about how public service broadcast is by pay for and delivered to the public in this country and we should a shy away from that debate and should continue to happen unfortunately you continue to be seen as a foregone conclusion, so even the commons select committee with the dinner.

It.

Was you know she's already made her mind she has come out on record saying that the licence for you've done she is also ignored the consultation and make her own views and minds up that Channel 4.

Not today, it's an opinion and it's an opinion that is being pushed through very quickly because it looking like this blooming taking time clock on what legislation this government can throw in in whatever time they have left if you want to look at the opinion polls and the drama that's happening on the front benches.

So it's a bit frustrating thing because I think it would be really valuable to have a debate I actually personally don't think the life as it's currently collected and values is the right way of doing things.

I think there is an innovation that can be done around at my preference is it? I think it should be tied to a broadband bill.

So that it pay for by and collected by an existing utility that comes into the house.

I supposed to be separated and therefore becoming a bit of a political football but none of those things are really on the table because this is about people having conversations about what the BBC does what channel 4 does and those things are always in Flux because it is representing a coach and a community of the UK and that is always going to be like for today.

As an indie and as a business this is really really troublesome because we are a small Indie and any stability or instability in this case presents a real challenge is to ask growing as a business like I simply don't know it worth us developing ideas for Channel 4 right now because if they do created significant in-house production company it is going to be pointless me trying to win work in that space.

So should I be my limited resources in developing kitchen ideas about space or should I be looking elsewhere anything with the government has been really relaxing actually understanding the challenges that we have a small businesses will come and quite clearly ignored our feelings on it and I'm going ahead with this privatisation idea without a real understanding of what the consequences might be going first said they're obviously better governance to see this week and Sunday Rebels even though they got an 80 seat majority a lot of people unhappy with the prime minister.

Do you think that could affect some of the more?

Awesome bills including the Channel 4 privatisation typically called out the Channel 4 privatisation and in really strong language saying that who is it was a a divisive issue.

That was totally unnecessary to take up at a time when the countries and seas and that really struck me as it an interesting example of Conservative themselves thinking that the Channel 4 privatisation is not politically in their best interests whether or not they think it's a good idea.

So I think it is the Channel 4 privatisation the BBC in particular are areas where I think there was always some Weakness in the government's support inside it isn't something that necessarily at all.

He probably policy this unilaterally embraced is particularly the channel for peace so I think they might find themselves struggling a little bit to push.

A policy that is wildly unpopular with the public and not even necessarily well supported by their own now divided party and I guess we'll see back over the Atlantic in the new boss kristeligt who replaced Jeff zucker plans to make the broadcast the last part of this is picking up on on Sunday planning.

I think before I joined what's the story here in who is Chris licht new boss is going to try and make less than personality no calls CNN during the trump administration in particular became a very combat of network and not did really well for them on the ratings.

He said that he's going to now try and not do we get rid of commentators like Jeffrey Costa or Ryan's daughter, but see if they can adapt their style to be slightly more news Oreo

And perhaps perceived as less this part is an oriented because there's a long as I need to pay in American media about whether left-leaning what these kind of oppositional to right-leaning media easel is not a good medium model obviously Fox news on the right has been very commercially successful hasn't really been a consistent breakaway left-leaning that media entity that has been able to run away with things having said that she was very well out of politics when it was very tired, so I'm curious to see whether this is more of an ideological and word for commercial judgement number 1 Fox News is by far away the biggest ineffective challenging some of the broadcast networks at in the US and MSNBC which is it a bit more left is Son of a number to and CNN primetime lineup hasn't quite been.

Not yet, it is having some trouble you think that's the right take for them to try and reposition as a Brit who doesn't watch American news programming to even understand how this is a debate so wild the way they do news in America and in other countries were in India is actually picked up a lot of this shouting match having 6 boxes of people or slugging each other off to convert to see who can get the attention.

It is a very different way of doing you that we are used to hear because of our impartiality rules Fox News is an entertainment show you know they have weaponized opinion programming.

It's not really news but I think that this is interesting because I think seeing a looking a bit more internationally to come and see how they can make themselves feel like they're more going up against BBC News is doing and becoming like the Merchant BBC World News and new channel together if it is something that works for the internet age and work globally I do think that it's looking like we can have a very combative election cycle again.

There's lots of rooms at Trump is going out.

Two weeks for the presidency and the midterms coming up right now.

See you then did do very well in that period cause.

I think a lot of people tuning in to actually have that sense of what is going on and have a bit of criticism and not just put it out there but actually kind of objectively debater in a way that was representative of the Democratic viewpoint and I think that all of those things put together means that brushing of images of CNN may do more harm than good.

It's lovely depends on what they want it to be but seeing him Plus has failed dramatically you know on the menu service there was describe a thing that kind of money what three weeks before before it was shut down for this new idea of what the scene and branch should be and I think there's going to be a lot of challenges before they can figure out what the next version of it is what here in the UK bit of movements in UK Museums of the BBC's named Rose Atkins analysis editor.

What is that or is that a reward for all of his?

Yeah, that was exactly the question that I had weather basically they've created a title to match the role that they think he feels I've run out and he's obviously has been a very successful broadcaster, but also crucially has developed the format of analytical style which is extremely valuable as a contribution to the media landscape explain her style where he takes and he goes through the full story with evidence demonstrating.

What happened, so said they send them so instead said there's in the inner side of timely fashion and I think that's for especially people who are not a news consumer.

I think it's really really good model and a very useful model for a versatile Media point of view for explaining what has happened.

What are the major developments in an ongoing store obviously his videos have been going viral quite regularly and it's a really lovely example of using news media in the way.

It's meant to be used to inform and explain but also giving people more Baxter

More explanation not assuming as much context as I feel like news broadcasters often do I interpret this as a reward for the good work that he's done and if it is indeed them signalling that they get to move more in the direction of that type of analytical coverage, then.

I think it's very much to be welcomed at these definitely favourite at the moment is popping up and more and more definitely saw him to the pop up on the breaking news around Boris this week today which is that just had a very sorry missed that I don't know the guy but he's had a very decent promotion Chris Mason political editor.

We had any news Stuart McLean there's a lot of familiarity around all of the names in that they are all white men again.

I don't think that the people should be in anyway criticised for the excellent journalist, they do but it's a time.

We are having lots of conversations around diversity in the media.

It is striking that more news big appointment seem to be going to familiar faces and people they all look like each other and I think that we should be asking some questions where we can see the next Simon use exact same you don't Curzon does colour as well because at the moment.

It's looking like it's becoming a worrying trend some more changes with allegra Stratton famous, put the party gate scandal by any person and a particularly resigned as she's popped up at Bloomberg as a UK contributing editor.

Wish you can hire for Bloomberg I think so, I think she was brought in to do this role, which was very very interesting it was that kind of whole West Wing press secretary role that the boys wanted to bring in for those daily briefings and never actually happened, so he clearly has journalism through her veins.

I think it's going to be interesting to see how tall is she's going to be from pinning a strikes to Tory Party and and Boris government in particular, but I don't.

A bad mood for her and I think it'd be good to see what channel is she comes out with and if she going to be free to talk about some of the things that she said an experience because I think I actually having the inside of voice and having a real understanding of guys on in the nations of of Downing Street and beyond can be super useful because quite frankly at the moment.

Just feels like chaos and any inside that we can get into how it really works is useful around or medium use in a bit at first though.

Have you noticed? There's a flurry of TV programme including our screens this summer well, I spoke to you when I'm calling podcast TV correspondence got Brian to find out all the things that we can't miss this season.

We chat organ and lots of other upcoming premieres.

Oh my word borgen and he's not been on TV for a decade of course.

This is the Danish drama that was you don't BBC4 when it first debuts because it looks into the minutiae of Danish politics and it manages to blend.

Political intrigue in and general political crisis with conifer home domestic sometimes so peaceful and the also as a bit of a politics key could a politics degree and never decide to make sure it in anything to do with politics voice and still quite fascinated by the subject because you learn a lot about how other countries work and do their own thing and particularly dangerous products you never really wearing outright majority.

There is so many smaller parties.

There's always going to be a coalition pretty much whoever wins whoever comes in political power so as a result you eventually to win a majority so you have to team up with sides are probably completely politically opposite then you are too then try to go and get something for loads of negotiation lots of backstabbing lots of deals being done with people who you really hate serving in your cabinet and I think it captures that energy well know what is interesting about.

New series is called Morgan power and glory with two things that I think what makes it interesting the first is I mean this series is just debuted.

I've only been able to see a very little bit but it's got different tone, then I think the first 3 series with a much more than a hopeful time.

I think it was just Democracy in politics in general.

It was West Wing he is still had a lot of cynicism.

I had a lot of dark sides to it.

It was generally the idea of you not have faith and politics and politics will be able to do good things for our Society and a course of in the last 10 years people have got a lot more cynical of what really happened in the corridors of power and I think this reflects the mood slightly more cynical with what it was before but not in the way to make you sad.

I think I'm on the way just being a bit more realistic and if it felt totally a bit odd you wouldn't really get abs Abs in it and same way and the second thing is interesting that this has been a Netflix series of course it has been shown in Denmark on their TV channel over there but Netflix I picked up International

This is a really interesting time when that BBC4 just in the last few weeks is in a been announced.

It's going to be shifting online your course that raises questions of exactly.

What's a good shift.

Online is most Top of the Pops sweets anyway, but this used to be the case of a scandi Noir drama, but it also got people talking in across the whole country for the first time and have I get Netflix in a box is a great cause.

There's lots of a subscribe to Netflix but I do wonder whether people are going to realise the booking is actually back again.

Yes, it's answered see it being a can of international squid game isn't it for quite a long time of the people in the Danish actors started popping up in other things actors appeared in Game of Thrones hosted Eurovision yes, yes, it was like two different parts of my mind merging into one it was beautiful.

Back for this season 2 there are some I mean I think the idea is he's no longer the prime minister and she's now moved to become a part of a different little party but also it's not setting this early with in Denmark Greenland because this new series looks at the balance between climate and the needs of climate protection but also we need they making a lot of money from from exploration.

So it's all go after the economic short-term knees and you go for the but long-term the very important obviously but like less financially sexy so of climate route so familiar to those who have seen it of course.

He's moved on in regards to have a relationship.

So yes, there will be some cameos so there's a new sky series called Midwich cuckoos which is based on the John Wyndham novel is that was much? Yes, I mean it again.

This is only literally going out for 2 1/2 seconds.

And this was an indication, West guys going to go in the future cause competition is so fierce and they've announced a doubling of their TV stands but also the film original spend and we all know the way of the spending more money doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be any good or any people going to watch it, but you also wonder what the long-term future will be for The Originals particularly that there's a lot of questions about whether they renew the HBO deal with HBO Sylvia partner with Sky weather going to do their own thing so what they're doing now as I thinking spending a lot more money doing his quite high like level of production of the Midwich cuckoos which course has been before and a film the village of the Damned but this is going to be in a starring Keeley Hawes it feels quite BBC it, but it also taps in a bit like the drama The Salisbury poisonings.

Of course it was no more realistic food poisoning wasn't it? But it was in terms of the fact that in the first episode at least you'll see a lot of people wearing those.

Nuclear protective clothing that they see so it feels like it's tapping into the concerns that people have right now about you know security about the safety about can you see I think this is sky making an ambitious.

Step towards doing dramas.

That are very very British of course.

I have also got the drama coming soon, which I mean.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for intrigued by it's that Kenneth Branagh drama where you might have seen him looking like Boris and it has to be a drama that captures the early days of the first wave of the pandemic in how the government to it.

I think I mean you wonder whether it would be able to accurately depict.

What's happened when we haven't had an enquiry really yet of what has actually happened about the pandemic, but also whether I want to have a drama about the last two years specifically at the top levels of government so soon after something that's been so terrible.

So this is I think you're an indication.

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Karen and Forest cover news in brief stocks jump this week after reports of a potential takeover by Netflix even massive in America isn't it as a device streaming service is not right Karen is a large streaming service obviously not in the Netflix real, but it has a model.

It's a streaming stick so it's much more accessible it also has a lot of its program is advertised her son dead and I think that might be what Netflix has its ion as it starts to open it up to the idea of advertising funded content so all the work is not necessarily huge here it is quite popular in the US and offers an alternative business model that Netflix

To as they started to struggle themselves with their growth you think Netflix might want to grab Roku interesting but it is difficult to know whether that's the story I mean and the word who's the CEO of Roku has been on record the saying that they see themselves as an ad business rather than hardware business and as Karen said they have done some interesting work in selling.

They create effectively if part of that battle for HDMI 1 you know the idea that when you turn your TV on what's the first screen that you see Roku has got a really big footprint that face so it might be something that Netflix intro there are conversations about Netflix getting into the business and what that ends up looking like as well as then diversifying into doing some short for games and short form content and looking at making Netflix Brown bigger than just premium TV programming but I'm not entirely convinced her Netflix as a hardware play is a good one because I think that Netflix successes very much.

On the fact that you can get it in anyway in any place.

I cannot see Netflix customers going into stores and find out what I'm going to pick up and Netflix streaming stick now, so I think this may be an hour play and kind of this is genuine and actually happens, but if it is a hardware play.

I would be skeptically interested to see where it goes have been quite involving far is ad-supported streaming services.

They take a bit of a cut or they insert their own ads into some of their partner programming is this the supercharged Netflix's ambitions? Yeah? I mean my suspicion is that that's probably what Netflix is looking to more than the hardware as I said before I am curious.

I'm not I'm a cautious.

Check whether Netflix is moving to advertising is going to ultimately be good for their business.

I think there's a real danger.

They talk about consumer choice.

They talk about giving people the option between a cheaper add funded.

There is a subscriber model.

I think they might be tempering with magic a little bit.

I think the point that people you don't get an excellent user experience at Netflix and they you know must be willing to pay the that has been a real part of the world ever seen cistern successful, so far.

It's not surprising that Netflix viewership might have gone down as the pandemic has come to an end and people are able to either house is now Hannah cover to match tonight.

I do wonder if another Advertiser for the platform is really what we need and whether that shouldn't be true to who they are what's been made them successful so far to remind on probably wrong about these things and now I might come back and stay well.

Obviously the smartest thing that likes Jade was it move to advertise a but we'll see how it goes.

I think it comes to Netflix they've got two challenges one is Discovery and the other one is creating habits around brands and I think that's what Disney doing incredibly well, you look at the amount of things that they're putting out around Star Wars at the moment.

What is a new Star Wars TV programme around every couple of weeks? They're all very good, but you know you wonder if they're kind of as they done with Marvel if they're gonna kind of really shake that money tree until it kind of games are doing a lot around and extending brands as far as it will go and a Disney continue to be absolutely brilliant at that Netflix actually surprisingly have quite a limited amount of successful brand Stranger things in Britain and I think that's where we have one of the challenges is whole thing that they become famous for dropping everything all at once.

I think it's coming back to bite them now because people are getting a bit more savvy to subscribe for a month binging the whole Stranger things and then switching off Netflix until it comes back the next year and all those things.

I think that is going to be a challenge for them was a real interesting part for me around all these conversations is what tiktok where tiktok is a brilliant apple you open it and it starts play new content and there's no choice involved.

There's no Screens and menus.

You have to kind of dive into to find something to watch it thinks it knows what you want to watch and it's

I think that's when Netflix going to start innovating as well as all these other brands including Facebook because as soon as we can get into a space where you are being given something based on AI and you can just literally back.

It's actually suspiciously like a traditional linear programming block is going to be where I think he was wanted to go and hopefully won't success of the streaming services will be well tiktok is very short form, but spending a TV amount of time watching it whenever I drop into the app the Old media and Jimmy companies are fine for is that of the media quiz and this week at the is entitled media trailblazers three stories when media companies and making creative leaps buzzing if you can name the company so Karen your say Karen over as you say I've got a treat for this you want it.

I found something that I've got this.

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We heard that there we go that's and I've never had a reason to use it but now I do with the media quiz so I'm sorry Karen but like I'm going to leave you you have to just do your best impression Karen and we won't mention to pizza the licencing right here we go so question 11.

I'm looking for the media company that's been a trailblazer so question everyone who is debuted the first Muslim superhero.

Who is it? I'm going to say Marvel Marvel Comics delightful to see her.

She's great character series have been great so far miserable in the situation was a fantastic character.

Who did pretty well and I think people who will TuneIn just for the moral aspect and there may be an additional audience.

To see some diversity, so why not going to be the next super superstar superhero? What does it already talked about her joining one of the things she going to be the next Captain Marvel film and she's going to get a Hollywood debut as well at this.

I can't be more excited about this but for a number of reasons obviously having cannabis in representation in a positive way on the most mainstream.

Platform is what I think is really interesting about this.

Is they made that sheet into slightly older age bracket now, but this is going to be one of the first series of Marvel that is going to be aimed at younger kids, so they going to bring a whole new generation of novel lover so I think the hope was that they were going to get a PG rating as part of this.

I think it might have just slipped into a 12A rating or whatever is in the US but this is very much as a family drama series to watch as opposed to a kind of gritty.

You know wall.led thing that they've been doing with previous Marvel Investor Relations absolutely in the early reviews that I've seen make it for

Toenail a little bit closer to something like never have I ever hour which was the sort of teen sitcom I think on Netflix featuring an Indian teenage girl which I thought was delightful.

So I'll take more of that type of thing I'm ok question number 2 who is trying out and you creative release model with a star lined Formula 1 Movie sorry that mean yes.

Yes, this is Apple TV which is doing some mad bonkers do all around her currently unknown Formula 1 story with Brad Pitt and Joseph Cotten behaves, obviously that the kind of golden child at the moment cos he's the director behind Top Gun Maverick which I had the highest opening for a film of all time ever with Top Gun Maverick and understanding is actually the highest grossing opening weekend of Tom Cruise film of all time which in itself is bonkers, but they bought all day people together as well as Lewis Hamilton to do this mad Formula One Show and obviously of the back.

Cast of Netflix drive to survive this is going to be a pretty big deal.

What's interesting about? This is that it's going to be getting her film release as well as a Apple TV release and every day like a million x over in a million different ways, so so there's a lot of money made in this Karen Seymour coloured creatively strategies involving the pictures from the streamers to thank you.

Yes, why not all bets are off and since we no longer necessarily need to rush to the cinemas to see big me future releases.

I think there's lots of room for experimentation right now.

I personally don't the whole model of throwing tons of money yet singular huge temple things like this rather than experimenting and spreading a bit more widely, but I mean apples got the money.

So why shouldn't they try it absolutely and finally a question 3 which publisher has made a foray into podcasting Karen

Yes, they been up to buy a producer of Media podcast Matt Hill and the presenter of the media podcast Matt Deakin yes, they bought a business Office last week podcast Awards Irish post Awards of training podcast Awards the ones that we do as well as a share of a conference we run cold podcast DE24 why have you got into broadcasting? She think I ask you? Why have you got to pop often? Do you think I mean you literally got the terms of the daily front of the other you and how much painting business, so they're the publishers campaign International Business they working in lots of different territories of people cutting is very hot I'd also very successful events company they run 50 award ceremonies a year so.

Any in the Awards world and obviously I can't talk too much about their plans.

That's definitely for them to say I don't believe you when we sort of setup the podcast Awards a 6 years ago has just a thing to do and is turned into a monster is the sector is ready ground only more things in more places.

We definitely want to represent all podcast is from little ones to pick ones and when we were looking at what you want to do this year moving forward actually putting up with a big firm who got a lot of ambition and some cash in the bank is a good thing about any of these sorts of deals and if people listening been involved with them sadly people don't come along and write you a massive check and then you disappear into the sunset so me and Matt will definitely be involved for the next four years and our success will come from their success, so I'll leave it at that.

I will say I think that's really good news actually you know to see this without sounding like a bit of a media podcast loving it is a great show.

It's a great event as well, so I think that hearing that both you still involved.

I think it's really important and hopefully long may it continue because I think it is genuinely Love by the industry and every time I've been to the water.

It's been a lot of fun, so I can't wait to see what's gonna happen next week.

Thank you.

We definitely need to keep that as are they going to Karen I think you won the quiz there sounds like you one that's my victory from your Newfound wealth into and riches and fame.

That's in my house.

You can have that plays day today and Farage Karen how people can keep up with what you up to Twitter that's where I mostly waiting on.

It's Karen j r k a r i n Jr on Twitter and anything else you need to be on there and you saying that you're a big fan of Marvel any TV shows or anything you've been.

Things that you would like to encourage other people to consume a little bit late on this because if he on my watches for a while will curry watching the Dropout which is amazing and actually really interesting story.

Cos it started off as a podcast BBC and is now Disney drama.

It's actually really compelling.

I'm just not fair enough and Elizabeth Holmes if that was nothing to you go straight to your Disney Plus app and today.

I'm really not like going going to the gym on that note the Obi-Wan Kenobi series is brilliant as well and it's a lot of fun.

So so they said they think that I'm currently watching on repeat as well as obviously love Island and how can people keep in touch so I mean we're just desperate to announce a couple of things that we are in the very final throes of signing and then there's people from the people that I meant to send it.

Can you please hurry up we can talk about it? I was hoping to announce on This podcast but we will be announcing it both myself as admin on the socials and gold underscore one Across everything as well.

Look forward to hearing all of that Karen what have you got for before you go I've watched so many absolutely one of the things like the name of all the vitamins get me so I'm just going to do a walk of shame and Confess the thing I'm watching is and catching up on The Great British sewing bee because my daughter has just learn to sew so that's the sad truth.

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