Full Freeview on the Kilvey Hill (Swansea, Wales) transmitter
Brian Butterworth first published this on - UK Free TV
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The symbol shows the location of the Kilvey Hill (Swansea, Wales) transmitter which serves 120,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.
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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
The Kilvey Hill (Swansea, Wales) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: .
If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.
Which Freeview channels does the Kilvey Hill transmitter broadcast?
If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
The Kilvey Hill (Swansea, Wales) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: .
If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.
Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Kilvey Hill transmitter?
BBC Wales Today 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 2YQ, 50km east-southeast (108°)
to BBC Wales region - 206 masts.
ITV Cymru Wales 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 6XJ, 49km east-southeast (113°)
to ITV Wales region - 206 masts.
Are there any self-help relays?
New Inn C/p | Transposer | 8 km NE Tenby | 1 homes 100 caravans |
How will the Kilvey Hill (Swansea, Wales) transmission frequencies change over time?
1950s-80s | 1984-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-2009 | 2009-13 | 17 Jul 2019 | ||||
VHF | A K T | A K T | A K T | A K T | A K T | ||||
C2 | BBCtvwaves | ||||||||
C21 | BBCA | ||||||||
C22 | ArqA | ArqA | |||||||
C23 | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | BBCA | |||||
C24 | D3+4 | ||||||||
C25 | SDN | SDN | |||||||
C26 | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | D3+4 | |||||
C27 | BBCB | ||||||||
C28 | ArqB | ArqB | |||||||
C29 | C4waves | C4waves | C4waves | BBCB | |||||
C30 | _local | ||||||||
C33 | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | ||||||
C34 | _local | ||||||||
C35 | C5waves | C5waves |
tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 12 Aug 09 and 9 Sep 09.
How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?
Analogue 1-5 | 10kW | |
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | (-7dB) 2kW | |
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux B* | (-12.2dB) 600W | |
Mux A* | (-15.2dB) 300W | |
Mux C*, Mux D* | (-20dB) 100W |
Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Kilvey Hill transmitter area
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Is the transmitter output the same in all directions?
Radiation patterns withheldSunday, 21 July 2019
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Chris.SE5:10 AM
John P:
Since the retune event on the 17th the UHF channels used at Kilvey Hill are 21, 22, 24, 25, 28 & 34 for the local mux. C27 is the HD(T2) mux. C37 is the local mux from Wenvoe.
I'm not familiar with your card & software, but based on the list you've posted, those are not all the correct channels.
Put your postcode into Digital UK - Coverage checker it will indicate predicted reception at your location. I assume you have a group A aerial set with vertical polarisation if Kilvey Hill is your intended transmitter, however with recent weather & propagation conditions, you could well be receiving channels from a number of other transmitters some of which might cause interference to channels you want. (You can of course use a Group K, T or Wideband aerial instead of Group A if you want!).
If you only want Kilvey Hill, you need to configure your system (however you do that) to receive
C21 (474Mhz) for BBCA, C24 (498Mhz) for D3&4, C25 (506Mhz) for SDN(COM4), C22 (482Mhz) for ArqA(COM5), C28 (530Mhz) for ArqB(COM6) & C34 (578Mhz) for the Local Mux. If your card will do HD (T2) then C27 (522Mhz) for BBCB (HD) mux.
Remember that C37 (602Mhz) is the Local mux from Wenvoe.
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regis7:58 AM
Ilfracombe
Hi,
Since been asked to retune on the 17th I only seems to get 22 tv channels.
I leave in EX34 9AY and always got the tv vis Kilvey Hill. I am not able to touch teh aerial as I leave in a block of flat.
Any advice as how I can get all teh channels missing?
Thank you
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MikeP
9:56 AM
9:56 AM
regis:
Checking the expected reception at your l;ocation shows that you should be using the Ilfracombe Freeview Light transmitter, see Coverage Checker - Detailed View Reception fropm Kilvey Hill is shown as being very poor.
Please check what multiplex channel numbers you are receiving, Ilfracombe uses 33, 36 and 48. Kilvey Hill uses 21, 24, 27, 25, 22 and 28 but you are unlikely to get much in the way of reliable reception.
As Ilfracombe is a Freeview Light transmitter, you appear to be getting all the correct channels.
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Chris.SE12:06 PM
MikeP:
I wasn't going to post in response to regis as yours seemed to cover it until my brain registered "block of flats" as I was about to close the page. I suddenly thought that as you correctly mention Ilfracombe is a Light Transmitter this could well be a customised installation & distribution system to receive Kilvey Hill to give more choice, and if it's a channelised system that could be why less is being received. On the other had an automatic tune may have just picked up the strongest channels, it depends on which ones are missing.
regis:
I would unplug your aerial and do an automatic tune - this will clear the set of any previously stored channels. Then do a manual tune of UHF channels 33, 36, (&48 if you have HD) which would be Ilfracombe and give you your local Westcountry news, then UHF channels 25, 22 & 28 for COMs 4/5/6 which would be Kilvey Hill and are unlikely to give reliable reception BUT that would depend on your block of flats installation which you'd have to contact your landlord about if you continue to have issues - you'd need to do that anyway if it's the BBC and main ITV channels that you are missing. Which way is the aerial pointing and is it vertical or horizontal?
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Michael10:25 PM
Regis and all:
If you received Kilvey Hill before, it should still work on the new channels. A clean retune, as recommended by Chris, will delete redundent channels and select the new Kilvey Hill channels (21,22,24,25,27,28). If your aerial is vertical and points at KH, you might receive a better signal from Carmel (channels 21,22,24,25,27,28) with the aerial horizontal, but pointed roughly in the same direction. I can receive both KH and Carmel, the latter being more reliable, although both can be affected by the 7meter tidal range in the Bristol Channel. Note that the new Ilfracombe relay channels are now the same as three of the new Carmel channels, so, despite opposite polarisation, interference might result - as we had some years back :-( If you can receive Ilfracombe (aerial vertical) it only offers the three main multiplexes, not the full complement of six as from KH and Carmel, but it is good for Southwest news. For all the new channels, a wideband aerial would be the most reliable. A Group-A aerial would struggle with the Carmel Arqiva-B multiplex. If you are able to tune channels in *manually*, you can select the channels you want, with six multiplexes from Wales, possibly plus BBC and ITV Southwest from Ilfracombe. If you use the automatic tuning option, in its inscrutable wisdom it will probably select weaker channels... Fallback position : forget the Ilfracombe relay and manually select either KH or Carmel and get SW news via the internet. Hope this helps!
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Monday, 22 July 2019
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John P7:34 AM
Chris.SE: I have edited the config file in Kaffeine Kaffeine - LinuxTVWiki and still cannot receive BBC4 SD (My computer card is not an HD card ) I have no trouble on either of my TVs after retuning. I have 95 channels which is quite a few less than my TV has found. Does it make a difference if I scan when BBC4 is not broadcasting ? Here is my current config file :
[dvb-t/uk-KilveyHill]
T 474000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 482000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 498000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 506000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 530000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 578000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 602000000 8mHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
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nobody11:33 AM
John P: "Does it make a difference if I scan when BBC4 is not broadcasting ?" Very likely you'll get CBeebies during the day instead.
I think this is correct:
[dvb-t/uk-KilveyHill]
T 474000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 21 BBC A
T 482000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 22 ARQ A
T 498000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 24 D3&4
T 506000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 25 SDN
T 530000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 28 ARQ B
T 578000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QPSK 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 34 Kilvey Hill (Local Mux)
T 522000000 8 MHz 2/3 NONE QAM256 8k 1/32 NONE /ch 27 BBC B HD
See Coverage Checker - Detailed View
If you hover the cursor over the UHF Channel number 'N" a pop-up window displays the transmission parameters for the multiplex.
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Chris.SE12:10 PM
John P: & nobody:
John, as nobody says, you might get CBeebies, but during the day the LCN is normally populated with a data stream and I'm afraid I haven't a clue how you card handles them but I guess nobody may know ;)
My only experience with a "box" that didn't handle such streams was that is ignored/failed to find the LCN. (IIRC I had to do an "add" channels when it was broadcasting - that method doesn't work/not available on all devices).
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Preece J7:58 PM
Thank you. Could someone tell me what is the significance of the 2/3 or 3/4 as I had some of these different in my config file and they seem to work OK
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regis8:33 PM
HI,
Thank you for all your comment, unfortunately I cannot do a manual scan as I use a bt box (humax) and it does not have the facility.
I seems to have try everything , factory reset the box and all but still only 43 channels showing (14 of are actually radio)
I am not over technical like some of the comments you mentioned so may have to try to see if I can get someone to look inot it.
Cheers for all your answers and help
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